Yet earnings and cash flow continue to grow and AAA-rated JNJ has raised their dividend 50 straight years. With new management there is a renewed focus on running their business. The acquisition of Synthes is adding to earnings and with earnings of $5.07 (per share) in 2012 and $5.45 (per share) in 2013 stock appears inexpensive to us. What areas of the market are you presently avoiding?Bradshaw: Utilities trade at big multiples and are too expensive now. You've probably been hearing that from a lot of fund managers, but we believe it to be true. Finally, what is your outlook for 2013? Bradshaw: At Hodges, we are bullish on US equities for 2013 and expect stocks to outperform bonds. All in all, it should be a good year for stocks. -- Written by Gregg Greenberg in New York.