NuStar's CEO Discusses Q2 2012 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

NuStar Energy L.P. (NS)

Q2 2012 Results Earnings Call

July 27, 2012 10:00 AM ET


Chris Russell – VP, IR

Curt Anastasio – President and CEO

Steve Blank – Chief Financial Officer


Brian Zarahn – Barclays

Cory Garcia – Raymond James

Ross Payne – Wells Fargo

James Jampel – HITE

Michael Blum – Wells Fargo

Brett Reilly – Credit Suisse

Jeremy Tonet – JPMorgan

Louis Shamie – Zimmer Lucas

Selman Ekyol – Stifel Nicolaus

Dennis Coleman – Bank of America



Good morning. My name is Christie and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the NuStar Energy L.P and NuStar GP Holdings LLC Second Quarter 2012 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions).

Thank you. I will now turn the conference over to Mr. Chris Russell, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead sir.

Chris Russell

Thank you, Christie. Good morning everyone, and welcome to our conference call to discuss NuStar Energy L.P. and NuStar GP Holdings LLC second quarter 2012 earnings results.

With me today is Curt Anastasio and President of NuStar Energy LP, and NuStar GP Holdings LLC; Steve Blank, our CFO, and other members of our management team.

Before we get started, we would like to remind you that during the course of this call, NuStar management will make statements about our current views concerning the future performance of NuStar, that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are subject to the various uncertainties and assumptions described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and will not be updated to conform to actual results or revised expectations.

During the course of this call, we will also make reference to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Our non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered as alternative to GAAP measures. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to U.S. GAAP maybe found either in our earnings call press release or on our website.

Now, let me turn the call over to Curt.

Curt Anastasio

Good morning and thanks for joining us. The recently completed second quarter and the few weeks that followed were very active periods for NuStar. In April, we completed a unit train offloading facility at our St. James, Louisiana terminal. That facility, constructed jointly with EOG Resources, can offload at least one 70,000 barrel unit train per day.

To-date, the facility is operating better than we had anticipated, and should provide EBITDA to our storage segment in 2012 and for years to come.

In early May, NuStar closed on a new five year $1.5 billion credit facility that replaced our previous $1.25 billion facility. The larger revolver gives us access to additional capital to fund our increasing internal growth capital program.

Late in May, we put hedges back on in our heavy fuel oil and bunker fuel inventories, that had been unhedged for about two months during the quarter. We estimated that second quarter results would have been about $32 million or $0.44 per unit higher, if these hedges had remained in place.

Shortly after the inventory hedges were put back in place, we unwound the remaining $470 million of fixed to floating rate interest rate swaps, that were in place on a portion of our 2020 and 2022 senior note maturities. With 10-year treasury rates falling to near record low levels, we decided to unwind the swaps, $22 million in cash proceeds were received as a result of unwinding the swaps.

In the first week of July, we connected our Corpus Christi to Three Rivers, Texas 16-inch crude oil pipeline, to a pipeline constructed by TexStar Midstream Services. These two interconnected lines are moving Eagle Ford Shale Crude oil from Frio County in South Texas, to Corpus Christi. This is the third pipeline project we have completed in the Eagle Ford Shale in the last year, giving us the ability to move up to 250,000 barrels per day of Eagle Ford Crude to the Corpus Christi market.

On July 6, we announced plans to sell 50% of our asphalt business to Lindsay Goldberg and create a joint venture. This transaction is moving ahead as planned, and is expected to close no later than September 30. At the closing we expect to deconsolidate the asphalt operations.

These July transactions are part of our plans to change the strategic direction of NuStar, by reducing our exposure in the margin based portion of our business, and becoming more focused on optimizing and growing the fee based storage and pipeline transportation segments of the company. I will talk more about future plans for the fee-based side of the business later in this call.

Taking a look at NuStar's second quarter earnings, total EBITDA for the company was negative $161 million. Obviously, that's significantly below last year's second quarter, and it's primarily the result of $272 million of non-cash charges related to asset impairments, mainly related to the write down of the company's asphalt refineries, as a result of the expected sale of 50% of its asphalt business to an affiliate of Lindsay Goldberg.

Gross impairment charges were partially offset by $29 million pre-tax non-cash gain on a legal settlement. Excluding these and other items, second quarter 2012 adjusted EBITDA would have been $88 million.

Our storage and transportation segments continue to benefit primarily from additional EBITDA being generated, as a result of the capital we have invested in internal growth projects over the last couple of years.

Read the rest of this transcript for free on

More from Stocks

Inside Carnival's Mind Blowing New Horizon Cruise Ship (Video)

Inside Carnival's Mind Blowing New Horizon Cruise Ship (Video)

Neel Kashkari: The Heart of Our Financial System Is More Radioactive Than Ever

Neel Kashkari: The Heart of Our Financial System Is More Radioactive Than Ever

Finding Stocks Right for You: Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap (Friday 8/25/18)

Finding Stocks Right for You: Cramer's 'Mad Money' Recap (Friday 8/25/18)

Flashback Friday: Amazon, Chip Stocks, Memorial Day

Flashback Friday: Amazon, Chip Stocks, Memorial Day

Week Ahead: Wall Street Looks to Jobs Report as North Korea Meeting Less Certain

Week Ahead: Wall Street Looks to Jobs Report as North Korea Meeting Less Certain