Trump's Revenge Tactics May Harm Republicans For Many Years

Mish

The pro-Trump faction is out for revenge. It will do Republicans no good.

Revenge Inspired Meltdown

An Arizona Republican Meltdown inspired by demands for revenge is underway.

Republicans lost Arizona in the November presidential race for the first time since 1996, and they have lost three U.S. Senate races in a row. How to respond? Naturally, Arizona’s Republican Party decided on the weekend to censure three of its most prominent fellow Republicans.

The state party’s committee members, led by chairwoman Kelli Ward, passed resolutions rebuking Cindy McCain, the widow of former Sen. John McCain; former Sen. Jeff Flake; and even current Gov. Doug Ducey. 

Mr. Trump, now decamped to Mar-a-Lago, is contemplating revenge against everyone in the GOP he blames for his defeat. He blames Mr. Ducey for not challenging Arizona’s electoral votes for Joe Biden, though the Governor had no legal grounds for doing so. 

The attack on Mr. Ducey is simply bizarre. The Governor has a strong conservative record and will finish his second term in 2022. Why would Mr. Ducey run if his own party members are attacking him? Sure enough, he said this weekend he has no interest in running for the Senate.

If Republicans want to keep losing elections, they’ll keep fighting over 2020 and Donald Trump instead of looking to the future.

The Cult Wants Revenge

The Trump cult wants revenge. Even Karl Rove now refers to Trump's followers as the cult. 

The Republican party needs to move on, but the cult would rather have a civil war, damn the consequences. 

Why?

Trump is washed up, finished, through. He lost in 2020 for one and only one reason: Enough of the country despised him.

Trump will still be as despised four years from now, only four years older, age 78.

Where's Trump going besides nowhere? And that even assumes he is not convicted in the impeachment trial. 

Meanwhile, those wanting revenge or an outright civil war need to ask themselves "What good it can possibly do?"

In his farewell speech, Trump said he will be back in ‘some form’. It will do neither him, nor the party any good.

Mish 

Comments (115)
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Mandelabra
Mandelabra

Repubs are dead, simple as.

KidHorn
KidHorn

The dems fought the 2016 election result for 4 years.

Trump is done, but he still has followers and any republican who votes against him in the absurd senate trial will be committing political suicide.

1Freedom1
1Freedom1

never rule out TRUMP

njbr
njbr

It is clear that the MAGA crowd want a different America.

The only problem is reality.

Sechel
Sechel

Trump needs to decide if he' starting a third party or chalenging eveyone in primaries he can't do both? Frankly I doubt Trump is even aware of what's involved in setting up and registering a 3rd party.

Republicans are stil largely behind Trump but this idea of censuring and excommunicating anyone who is still not loylal to Trump seems akin to cutting one's nose off to spite one's face. Sure they might be able to take down Liz Cheney , who is right, but she's good with the corporate donors something the MAGA'S are not good at.

Trump's retribution is having an impact. Kevin McCarthy seems to have walked back his comments placing blame on Trump for January 6th

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

The one who surprises me is Rubio.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again

Unfortunately there is a decent sized % that do not trust the result. In their eyes its an illegitimate regime in place. Forget Trump, he's finished, but the after taste will be in place for years & years.

Pity Biden ^ Harris . Hoover MarkII.

caradoc-again
caradoc-again

Unfortunately there is a decent sized % that do not trust the result. In their eyes its an illegitimate regime in place. Forget Trump, he's finished, but the after taste will be in place for years & years.

Pity Biden ^ Harris . Hoover MarkII.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

"Trump is washed up, finished, through. He lost in 2020 for one and only one reason: Enough of the country despised him. Trump will still be as despised four years from now, only four years older, age 78. Where's Trump going besides nowhere? “

The answer to that is.....I don’t know.

I underestimated his appeal in 2016...and his numbers (the real ones) in this election weren’t horrible, in spite of an absolutely abysmal performance on a litany of issues....in spite of handling COVID with the same general approach as King Edward III did with the bubonic plague in 1348.

So I’d really like to see somebody drive a stake through the heart of his political ambitions.....if not his actual heart.

Sechel
Sechel

Rob Portman's had enough

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

Trump will use MAGA cultists to hold the establishment GOP hostage. So far it's worked for him, otherwise why is there not global condemnation from the Jan 6th insurrection by all patriotic, Constitution loving Republicans?

There's two outcomes.

  1. The establishment GOP votes to excise the Trump cancer. The coming impeachment trial would be the ideal time to do it. This causes a fracture in the GOP and would reduce their chances of winning in the short term, but would be the best thing for the party's chances for survival in the longer term.

  2. MAGA holds the establishment GOP hostage and eventually takes over, as they primary more and more incumbents. The newly usurped GOP rejects democracy outright and increasingly relies on political intimidation and violence in order to achieve goals. MAGA is already well down the road to fascism, and they would hijack the GOP and divert them to continuing down that path.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2

"Harm Republicans For Many Years"
Good. The G卐P needs to die.
It is the Party of Hate®.
Their voters hate:

  • women controlling their own bodies
  • clean air, water, and land
  • "colored" people
  • free trade
  • science and facts
frozeninthenorth
frozeninthenorth

At the end of the day, the GOP has to assume responsibility for Trump, because although he was the most toxic and virulent strain of the Southern strategy that the GOP put in place in the mid-1960s he didn't invent it. The GOP has for years "dog whistled" its "racist" winks and nudges; Trump just said aloud what the GOP was hinting or winking at!

Fundamentally, when Trump ran in 2014/15 he ran on a basic GOP platform removing the BS and everyone else was preaching from the same hymn sheet. He just said it outloud!

The reality of the GOP (and the Dems too) is that the primary election system is made to encourage the most fervent and engaged members of the party to participate -- there is little "national GOP selection process" therefore the crazier will win. How do you get a Qanon supporter otherwise as a member of Congress?

These are not particular issues to Trump, they are the reality of the GOP. BTW, had black lives matter done the same thing as these morons did on January 6th, it would have been dead "protesters" that would have been dragged out of the Capitol.

At the end of the day, the GOP in Trump reaped what they sowed. They will have to face the consequence of that -- and it will take a while not a vote to impeach Trump

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird

Still amazed anyone would be so gullible to think Trump cares about them or the country. The only thing Trump cares about is himself and less so, his business cronies.

PostCambrian
PostCambrian

I am more worried about Trump's quest for revenge hurting the country and democracy rather than hurting the Republicans. A GOP that believes in truth, facts, and science would strengthen the country, not weaken it. And believing in climate change doesn't mean that you have to shut down the economy. There are always cost/benefit arguments to make for every position or policy but it doesn't do any good to pretend that it doesn't exist.

Neoliberal Elitist
Neoliberal Elitist

Look at all the organizations and businesses Trump has ruined over the years.

What did Republicans expect?

They made a deal with the devil for some temporary power, and now the bill is due. The cost will be a decade or more in the political wilderness.

Roger_Ramjet
Roger_Ramjet

Well, I certainly hope you are right and that Mr. Trump is finished.

That being said, after witnessing the dot com and housing bubbles, I was pretty sure that the market would never, ever have done anything as bizarre and reckless ever again. Yet here we are, only bigger.

ajc1970
ajc1970

Pretty spot-on post, I would just change the title to:

"Trump's Revenge Tactics WILL Harm Republicans For Many Years"

Tengen
Tengen

The demise of either party in this duopoly seems rather unlikely. As long as the country survives (intact) so does the red/blue system.

That said, the Repubs do face a real conundrum. For decades they've paid lip service to social conservatism while devoting nearly all their energy to serving banks and corporations. They face attacks on two fronts now since the voters are more insistent on being heard and corporate America is leaning more and more blue apart from the energy industry. Banks are happy with either party, but as we've seen with big tech, large corps now seem to favor the Dems.

If the GOP decides to give up on corporate donors to focus on social conservatism, they'd have to rely on individual donations in the midst of a lousy economy. They won't want to do that, so they'll try to stick with the status quo while voters get ever angrier. Grab your popcorn!

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat

19th century philosopher John Stuart Mill had a good explanation for why Trump supporters behave as they do:

So long as opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses instability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it. For if it were accepted as a result of argument, the refutation of the argument might shake the solidity of the conviction; but when it rests solely on feeling, worse it fares in argumentative contest, the more persuaded adherents are that their feeling must have some deeper ground, which the arguments do not reach; and while the feeling remains, it is always throwing up fresh intrenchments of argument to repair any breach made in the old.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill

Watching these people rant and rave on various forms and the hate and anger in their hearts that even reduce "Mike Pence" to liberal status in their need to support an elected king is going to set back the Republican cause for a long time. These people are deplorable in so many ways as they are nothing more than sheep following their corrupt shepherd, Donald Trump. Even watching my mom's Facebook feed, she has nothing but hate in her heart for anyone who doesn't support Trump.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill

The Arizona GOP as an organization has proven themselves to be a horse's ass! I mean think of the insults Donald Trump launched at John McCain (who I am not a fan of) that include even McCain's military service, and they want Cindy McCain to smile and act like none of that ever happened and just follow the herd mentality that is Trumpism.

Dodge Demon
Dodge Demon

Mish, you say that like it’s a bad thing.

Washington warned of the dangers of political parties.

Eisenhower warned about the the dangers of the Military-Industrial CONGRESSIONAL Complex (as originally written.)

The country would be better off picking random names out of a phone book for candidates, as Buckley said.

LewisM
LewisM

Not sure I agree. I thought Republicans were done after Bush 2, up til then the most disastrous and incompetent presidency of my lifetime - and yet they bounced back pretty quickly, just as they bounced back quickly from Nixon. There will be short term disarray like with every party that is totally out of power.

Johnson1
Johnson1

Pretty good article on Dark Money. It tells me Big Tech has nothing to worry about.

Future Forward PAC, a super-PAC that spent $104 million backing Biden, got $46.9 million from Facebook Inc. co-founder Dustin Moskovitz, $3 million from Twilio Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeff Lawson and $2.6 million from Eric Schmidt of Alphabet Inc, the parent company of Google. But its biggest source of funds was its sister nonprofit, Future Forward USA Action, which contributed $61 million. The names of those who put up the $61 million don’t have to be disclosed.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, a Rhode Island Democrat, has blamed dark money for persuading Republicans to block legislation to address climate change and assuring judges who share their views are appointed to the courts.

“Dark money is toxic to democracy -- period,” Whitehouse said in a statement. “The fact that progressive groups have learned to fight back using similar tactics is no excuse for continuing the plague of dark money in America.”

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

As far as I am concerned, the Republican Party is entirely to blame for the events of January 6th - including the 4 deaths that resulted. The spineless Republican Party failed to stand up to Trump and tell America the truth - that there is absolutely no evidence of election fraud. Not one single court case that the Trump team pursued alleged any kind of election fraud. It is sad that even now, when they have a chance to excise the “cancer” from within their own party, they scream about unifying the country. Where were they on unifying the country while Trump screamed election fraud. As a registered Republican, I am absolutely appalled at the shamelessness of the majority of the elected Republican senators and congressional representatives.

CCBW
CCBW

Trump stepped into a fogy swamp four years ago to drain it. But when the fog cleared he looked around and realised he had been on an island and the swamp was every where and as big as an ocean there is no place to drain that much S**T. And when the people he had picked to help drain the swamp were actually swamp things themselves and didn't realy want to drain there swamp. Because that where they got to suck the life blood of the country ( MONEY) like your typical parasite. ccording to news coverage and White House news releases, Trump has written checks equal to a quarter of his $400,000 annual salary every quarter to various government agencies and keeps one dollar. Trump is not the first president to donate his salary. Former Presidents John F. Kennedy and Herbert Hoover, both wealthy before they took office, donated all their earnings to. Of course being a tax cutter JFK would not be allowed in the Democratic party.

njbr
njbr

Two things Trump will do...

First, milk as much money from his marks, err "faithful patriots" as possible.

Second, work toward creating a Trump coronation as soon as possible. I think his delusions about himself and America are such that he no longer wants to have to deal with elections or laws.

The problems for Republicans is that they are the marks and tools of his dreams.

William Janes
William Janes

Once voters understand Biden's new Open Borders Policy: Amnesty for all and allowing all new border crossers to stay in US permanently. Well all those wealthy enclaves in California, Texas, and Colorado will move in waves against the Democrats. The Biden Caravan Tide is coming.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

Pretty good autopsy of the Trump Presidency’s accomplishments and the mistakes.

Mallen Baker comes as close to being fair-minded as any analyst I know.....I like his take on a variety of subjects, most notably climate.......This video might come across to some as too pro-Trump.....but as a Trump hater myself, I want to hear an opinion that might be more fairminded than my own. Plus, Mallen is not a local boy.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

The scary thing for me is that such a large number of Republican voters were fully on board with Trump’s racist behavior and views. Republican presidential candidates in 2024 will be sorely tempted to tap into this pool of voters. Does not bode well for the next election.

Dicpoh
Dicpoh

I have often wondered what exactly the Trumpster wanted and I have concluded they want a white Christian nation with women back in the kitchen, gays back in the closet, dark skinned minorities to know their place and a white man as the boss and they are willing to burn down everything to have what they want.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill

Scanning the news today, it looks like the party of Coolidge and Reagan that handed out "Character Matters" bumper stickers in 1992 to fight Bill Clinton's journey to the White House is doubling down in their support of Donald Trump.


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