Trump to be the First President Twice Impeached

Mish

The House will act to impeach Trump a second time. This has never happened before.

Article to Accuse Trump of Inciting an Insurrection

The WSJ reports House Democrats to Introduce Article of Impeachment Against Trump.

House Democrats plan to introduce an article of impeachment against President Trump on Monday, according to two Democratic aides, as lawmakers intensified calls to remove the president soon before the end of his term after he encouraged a mob that later stormed the Capitol in an effort to disrupt the certification of his election loss to President-elect Joe Biden.  

More than 150 House Democrats, well over half of the caucus, have signed on to the article of impeachment written by Reps. David Cicilline of Rhode Island, Ted Lieu of California and Jamie Raskin of Maryland that focuses on the breach of the Capitol complex and accuses the president of inciting an insurrection. If passed, it would make Mr. Trump the first president in the nation’s history to be impeached twice. 

“This conduct is so grave and this president presents such a clear and present danger to our democracy, I don’t think you can simply say let’s just wait it out” until Mr. Trump leaves office, said Mr. Cicilline in an interview. Mr. Biden’s inauguration is Jan. 20.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) said Friday the House would move to impeachment if Mr. Trump doesn’t leave office imminently, though she hasn’t specifically backed the article that lawmakers plan to introduce.

Trump Neutered

Mrs. Pelosi also said on Friday she spoke with the Joint Chiefs chairman, Army Gen. Mark Milley, “to discuss available precautions for preventing an unstable president from initiating military hostilities or accessing the launch codes and ordering a nuclear strike. 

I was assured that there are safeguards in place,” Mrs. Pelosi said on a private phone call among House Democrats, calling the president unhinged, according to a person on the call.

Trump is no longer running the country. 

Symbolic Action

Impeachment is highly likely to be a symbolic action. 

McConnell will delay this long enough so that Trump will already be gone. He will not want an official vote so that Senators will have to take a stand.

Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign

Two days ago the WSJ commented Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign

I concluded "Senate Majority leader McConnell should demand Trump's resignation or tell the president he will support an impeachment process if he doesn't."

Today, we can see that will not happen. 

I spoke out against impeachment the first time. This time, Trump is clearly guilty.

But is impeachment wise?

Willing to Take a Stand

  • Sen. Ben Sasse (R., Neb.) said he would consider impeachment.
  • Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski became the first Republican senator to call for Mr. Trump to resign.
  • Senator Mitt Romney "stand outs" 

Murkowski says I Want Him Out.

“I want him to resign. I want him out. He has caused enough damage,” Murkowski told the Anchorage Daily News.  

Murkowski told the newspaper that if the GOP doesn’t cut ties with Trump, she might leave the party. “If the Republican Party has become nothing more than the party of Trump, I sincerely question whether this is the party for me,” she said.

Romney has not publicly stated an opinion on impeachment but I am quite sure he would do it. Romney’s speech calling out GOP was the culmination of years of warning about Trump

Late in the evening, as senators confirmed President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, Romney delivered a scathing speech excoriating the elected officials who put political ambition ahead of the nation — the natural culmination of a danger Romney had been warning about for more than four years.  

“We gather today due to a selfish man’s injured pride and the outrage of his supporters whom he has deliberately misinformed for the past two months and stirred to action this very morning,” said Romney, speaking in the Senate chamber about Trump’s baseless claims that the November election was rigged.

Recall that Romney was the only Republican to vote for Trump’s impeachment last year. It is reasonable to assume he would again. 

Hang Mike Pence

Meanwhile, pro-Trump protesters in Dallas chant "Hang Mike Pence".

I am surprised that video is still up. 

Morally Corrupt

Lindsey Graham's Fake Worry "Further Divide the Country"

Question of the Day

If impeaching Trump would "further divide the country," as Republicans claim, then what did the GOP think challenging Biden's election win would do?

Mish

Comments (123)
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Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

I see no reason why the expiration of Trump's term in office would moot his impeachment. Sen. Schumer will be majority leader at noon 1/20/21 and can continue the process to completion.

There are subsidiary issues that depend on conviction, such as a simple majority vote to bar Trump from ever again holding public office. Not to mention getting Republican senators on record as supporting a coup.

Conviction requires 2/3 of senators present, not 67 senators. It is possible that 17 Republican senators will absent themselves to provide the 2/3 majority. A quorum is 51 senators.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

I think it is worthwhile to impeach him again. The threat of being permanently banned from government may keep him from doing any more crazy actions his last couple pf weeks. If he does so,ething crazy then maybe Moscow Mitch will get off his ass and pish impeachment along.

Doug78
Doug78

Not to mention that the Republican senators would lose a sizable part of their electorate if they did it which is what I believe the Democrat leadership would love.

ajc1970
ajc1970

The Trump supporters who are chanting "Hang Mike Pence" are too stupid to realize that they're doing Pence a favor.

They're scrubbing the Trump off of Pence.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

McConnell and Blount and others simply lack the moral courage to to the right thing, They could put Congress in emergency session and complete an impeachment trial in a single day if they wanted to.....they just don’t want to.

And what it means is that the US clearly lacks any way to take down a dangerous President...the PROCESS we have is flawed by partisan politics...It looked like that already, based on every historical instance of impeachment being invoked......and now we will know for sure. If it can’t happen now, exactly how is it EVER supposed to happen?

This symbolic move is a way to try to pressure Trump to quit...that’s all it amounts to...it might work, but it’s lame.

marg54
marg54

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

Just in case anyone forgot, he was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher by a mob urged on by the President of the United States trying to overthrow the United States government.

Back the badge. Anyone in the U.S. Capitol at the time deserves capital punishment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/police-officer-killed-capitol.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

njbr
njbr

Two choices for the GOP

Part with Trump-become a 30% polling party
Stay with Trump-become a 30% polling party

njbr
njbr

Another case of once may not have been enough...Brazil reports COVID-19 reinfection with a mutation which was first found in South Africa

Sechel
Sechel

I have mixed feelings about this. Trump committed sedition, started a fire in an attempt to stop a valid election, a coup d'etat, but I know its not likely to pass the Senate but I am gobsmacked at the outrage on the right calling this inappropriate when they signed onto impeaching Bill Clinton for lying about a blow job. Sedition vs blow job. You tell me

Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman

Just the fact that it was Pence, not trump, who requested the National Guard to come into D.C. tells us Pence likely had to use leverage with Trump.

That conversation probably included mention of the 25th, and to spare him the humiliation Pence was allowed to call in the National Guard.

I also believe trump will be the 1rst US president in history to be convicted, potentially jailed, after leaving office.

trump directed his base to go after Pence, that's one of the most myopic political moves I've ever seen....some of these armed idiots were openly saying they were there for Pence.

simb555
simb555

Go ahead, a useless impeachment that will do a lot bring the country together. After 6 months with Biden and his elites governing things will be so bad we will be begging to have him and his policies back.

Jmurr
Jmurr

My prediction has always been that the pendulum swing from Trump’s idiotic presidency would be socialism. At least this impeachment will be just. Hunter’s laptop has proven that the first one was not.

Sechel
Sechel

We have to be honest about what the goals of impeachment are. If the point is to remove Trump from office before his term ends that us not going to happen. That said there needs to be ramifications. We can't simply take repercussions off the table. What Trump did was unconscionable

Agave
Agave

Some people still do not fully understand the implications of the psychopathology of trump and the worst of his followers. He is a malignant narcissist and a sociopath. People keep trying to ascribe normal human emotions and reactions to him, but they are not going to get those. He is essentially devoid of empathy for anything other than himself and his immediate family (or only a few of them maybe). Everything DOES revolve around him in his mind, in an extreme way that is even outside the bounds of what we think we understand from certain arrogant yet less total narcissists than him that we may know personally.

This makes him capable of some very dangerous actions, or in egging them on, in his final days in office.

His hardcore supporters and seditionists who invaded the Capitol had telegraphed their intentions for weeks ahead of time, yet the Capitol Police did not prepare properly and trump's DoD refused to release the critically needed National Guard support before the electoral counting day itself, and then delayed up to 90 minutes after they were frantically requested DURING the insurrection.

Now on Parler, there are various white supremacist groups and affiliated terrorist vigilantes and other trumplings who are promising violence and chaos around the inauguration dates. They have mentioned Jan 17, 19, and 20 already, and boldly so, basically taunting that they can't be stopped because they will be armed heavily this time.

This time it needs to be taken much more seriously - even if it turns out smaller than threatened. Problem is, some of the force needed to prepare for this needs to be assigned and implemented by trump's departments like the DoD in charge of the Guard in DC, so I'm expecting he will understaff it intentionally again. Apparently, he was gleeful at the Capitol invasion, and perplexed when many around him watching it on tv were horrified.

Here's an article and interview with more description of his psychopathology by someone who specializes in this area of study:

QTPie
QTPie

Besides incitement, if he actually did delay deployment of the National Guard for hours then he should be put in jail, not just removed from office.

GawdHelpUs
GawdHelpUs

Huh. It’s hard to believe it took a home-grown American putsch to finally expose the Manchurian candidate. The shallow pool of idiots who still support the mad king reflects enormous short-comings in the outcomes our nation’s educational system. Unfortunately, the big lies of the past four years are not likely to die with this administration. Just watch...those same lies will be taken up by a new, bolder, and more violent breed of facists, just as they were in 1930s Europe. How sad.

Telenochek82
Telenochek82

Speaking of the failure of education system. Here in California, we have high taxes that are supposed to pay for stuff, like education etc.. In actuality, majority of schools are in debt to Wall Street through bonds.
Some examples from two rich school districts:
Saratoga Union Elementary district (very rich district, and still has bond debt)
Revenue per student = $18.3k
Instruction expenditure per student = 9.9k
Interest on debt = $0.5k

Los Gatos Union Elementary (fairly well off district, even for CA)
Revenue per student = $15.1k
Instruction expenditure per student = 7.2k
Interest on debt = $1.0k

This is true , better or worse shape, for vast majority of schools in California.
Why or why are these public school districts in debt to Wall Street???

Sechel
Sechel

More grounds for impeachment. It won't result in early removal but after impeachment Senate can vote by simple majority to block from every running for office again

Kimo
Kimo

I find that Trump needed to remind protesters to be peaceful before the march. During the protest, he should have tweeted to his supporters, stay out of the Capitol and behind barricades. These omissions are conceivably impeachable.
I am suspicious that the impeachment is designed to keep Trump from running in 2024. Seems like his first impeachment was over an issue of prosecuting Biden, to keep him from running in 2020.
It sure would have been nice to have a transparent election in the counting rooms of the battle ground states. Are we now dealing with our Republic, or something that just resembles the one we had, when it's convenient?
Kimo

Sechel
Sechel

Hedley Lamarr: You got impeached twice
Trump: I like impeachment

A tribute to blazing saddles

amigator
amigator

And their third attempt will not work either.

Can't these people do any real work?

Heymike
Heymike

Wasn't he acquitted on the first attempt and not actually impeached?

DlSmith
DlSmith

LIARS! He was acquitted! Fake news media. You’re all saying that and you should be charged.
If I stood trial for murder and was acquitted and you people said I was CONVICTED you’d be paying for it.

Mish
Mish

Editor

It is sad that so many Trumpian fools need a civics lesson.

Three presidents have been impeached: Clinton, Andrew Johnson, and Trump.

They were all "impeached" but none convicted by the Senate.

Yes, Trump was impeached and he will be impeached again.


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