Trump's Powerful, In Your Face SOTU Speech Gets Feeble Response

Mish

President Trump delivered a powerful but divisive state of the union message tonight. Speaker Pelosi ripped up a copy.

Anyone expecting president trump to reach across the aisle tonight or for Nancy Pelosi to accept the measure if he did, were mistaken.

President Trump delivered a strong speech but very divisive STOTU Tuesday Evening. Here is a complete replay.

At the outset, Trump appeared to rebuff House speaker Nancy Pelosi's attempt at a handshake (22:30 mark), but it's difficult to say if that was intentional.

Towards the end of his speech Pelosi ripped a copy of the speech in a first ever event.

Division in America

There will be mud and animosity from here on out.

Some of the commentators, even on Fox News, expected some small olive branches from Trump, but it was "In You Face" all the way including ridiculous praise of Rush Limbaugh by Trump, sure to annoy any fence-sitting moderates.

Trump called Limbaugh “the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet. Thank you for your decades of tireless devotion to our country,” Trump said.

CBS News senior political analyst John Dickerson said, “Not only did the president not shake the speaker’s hand, she did not say the traditional words, ‘it’s my high privilege and distinct honor to introduce the president.’ You saw there it was an absolutely split evening. The division in America was out there for all to see.”

Feeble Democratic Response

The democrat response delivered by Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) was lame, totally boring.

Very Poor Start for Democrats

Iowa was a disaster for the Democrats as the moderates are even more split than Bernie and Warren.

If the election were tomorrow, I would bet on Trump.

However, it's not tomorrow, so we have to see how this unfolds. I doubt if the divisive tactics that got Trump in are what will keep him there. And there is still a very good chance of a recession.

Also, Trump is clearly overplaying the base in the praise of Limbaugh. This will not win moderates. The base can hardly be more energized.

Regardless, this is a very poor start of the national campaign for the Democrats, and a good one for Trump.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (53)
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Jojo
Jojo

Here's my summary of the State of the Union.

We have a criminal in the presidency, a corrupt Senate that has forgotten they oath they swore to "support and defend the Constitution", a weak economy forced the Federal Reserve to cut already low interest rates on THREE different occasions in 2019 and the low unemployment rate was achieved by simply neglecting to count millions of unemployed people. Global warming continues to accelerate, the EPA relaxed pollution regulations making everyone subject to a dirtier environment, homelessness continues to rise across the country and the number of people w/o health insurance is again rising under President Trump. And that is just the headlines. It gets much worse when you look at the details.

Tengen
Tengen

It's a good thing I don't give these SOTU addresses. I haven't watched one in at least 15 years and I'm assuming Trump was far more verbose than me and pretended everything is awesome. I would use a Q&A format that would take around a minute:

Good evening everyone, thank you to all of my esteemed blue team and red team colleagues present, let's get started. Are the central bankers still running our country and the world, more or less?
The crowd murmurs and nods
They are? Alright, is the MIC still running amok around the world in support of said bankers and to enrich themselves with funding largesse?
Lots of affirmative head nodding
It is? Okay, the SOTU is precarious and we're one year closer to squandering every advantage we have enjoyed in the post-WW2 era. Everyone in this chamber should be deeply ashamed and history will certainly view us as failures. With that, our work here is concluded. Good night everybody!

Jojo
Jojo

The strangest State of the Union ever
Trump zigs to the right, zags to the center in a speech that broke all the rules.
02/05/2020

President Donald Trump likes his superlatives and you have to give him credit: He definitely earned them this time.

This was the most defiant, most boastful, most ostentatiously theatrical, most overtly campaign-oriented, most am-I-hearing-this-right? outlandish—the most flamboyantly bizarre—State of the Union Address of All Time.

....

Sechel
Sechel

Trump is the same in public and private. With Trump its all personal. He's the last one to say its just politics. It actually projects weakness when the President is seen fighting Congress in such way. It brings up the image of a President who will not be able to pass his agenda and a fractious American government.

Sechel
Sechel

History generally looks well on those leaders that unite and represent the whole country. No doubt his base loves the combative style and it might be good electioneering but its not leadership. Never heard of a leader being looked upon favorably when they govern a divided electorate and they promote those divisions. Demagoguery last I checked was not a positive attribute of any leader

lol
lol

2012 redux,clearly ineffective (useless)incumbent( pretending)selling his policies and hoping the govt dependent masses buy his newspeak and bs.But after Obama got relected after doing virtually nothing for 4 years except run up dept and hand out welfare checks and with the bar set so ridiculously low,could Trump sneak in the back door for another term?

ksdude69
ksdude69

Awe poor snowflake Pelosi. Maybe she should take a break and go to Disneyworld with AOC, Greta and David Hogg(not sure if he's really a kid).

Speaking of AOC? Did they finally realize how bad she's making them look and told her to stay the hell away from the camera?

numike
numike

Admitting that he is perhaps too jaundiced: Working on the assumption that acts, once not impeached, are no longer not in scope for future impeachment, Pelosi, in 2006, did not impeach Bush for taking the country to war in Iraq, for his warrantless surveillance program (multiple felonies; destruction of the Fourth Amendment), or for torture (prohibited by international treaties, hence the law of the land). The Republicans did not impeach Obama for whacking a US cititzen with a drone strike and no due process. After 2016, the Democrats focused, laser-like, even before the inaugural, on impeaching Trump over an ever-shifting, never-proven Russia-adjacent “collusion” narrative driven by anonymous leaks from the intelligence community, which we were constantly assured would bring about Trump’s impeachment, or even his imprisonment. When that Democrat effort ignominiously collapsed with Hero Of The Resistance™ Mueller’s damp squib of Congressional testimony, the new Ukraine narrative miraculously appeared, articles of impeachment were instantly prepared, followed by several weeks of delay in delivering them to the Senate, followed by complaints that the Republicans would not call the witnesses that the Democrats themselves should have called. (Comic interlude: The uncalled Bolton boosting his pre-sales at Amazon.) Utterly predictably, given both their credibility and Republican venality, the Democrats than lost the impeachment vote in the Senate, thereby cementing Trump’s “abuse of power” into precedent. (To be fair, the Democrats may make a few 2020 Senate races more difficult for the Republicans than before.) So, let’s review: From 2006, due primarily to sins of omission or commission by Democrats, Presidents are not accountable for: (1) Fake intelligence leading to war, (2) felonies, (3) war crimes, (4) assassinating US citizens (this is down to the Republicans), and (5) abuse of power. Oh, and (6) epic levels of personal corruption, since Democrats did not impeach Trump over the emoluments clause, setting another precedent. And Sorkin bleats on about “degrading Presidential accountability”? Welcome to Planet Earth

Zardoz
Zardoz

Our government has completed the transition to moronic reality show that the sponsors control.

stillCJ
stillCJ

Editor

Nancy started it with her shortened, less welcoming version of the usual introduction. Her "tear it up" performance at the end was like bookends. She behaved like a spiteful old bitch. Oh wait, she is a spiteful old bitch. Never mind.

abend237-04
abend237-04

Myself aside, I know of no one perfectly qualified to be president and I'll even go so far as to predict there will never be one. To compensate, we need a functioning two party system to facilitate the airing of all the imperfect candidates. Recently, the Democrats seem intent on destroying one man...with a circular firing squad.

I just saw a video clip of James Carville griping about the Democrat candidates,"...voting from their jail cells, no borders, come on people, there are lots of people in this country hurting..."
Never thought I'd agree with slick Jimmy on anything, but he's nailed this one.

The Donald has them in such a screeching rage that they can't even do simple arithmetic on a winter's evening in Iowa.

silvermitt
silvermitt

I just watched this. No, I don't think Trump meant to purposely snub her, he just handed over those things to his vp and Pelosi in the same manner and turned around to get his speech done. As for her tearing up the papers, yeah, that's childish. Especially since she knew she was being watched. Her time is over.
I consider myself a moderate type, and don't really go for extreme politics in either direction. That said, the whole Limbaugh thing really meant nothing to me. He's not THAT influential to those of us in the middle and we don't care about rants. Personally, I think he's another washed up figure who used to command respect. Used to.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

2.1% gdp is nothing to brag about. Especially when you needed a FFR of 1.5% to do it along with more liquidity programs from the Fed. The next time down will be ugly. 30T debt ahead.

AWC
AWC

Wow, an hour and a half long campaign infomercial, and it didn’t cost the performers a dime!

thimk
thimk

Maybe I should have my hearing checked - I seemed to have missed the "blue collar" boom.

ReadyKilowatt
ReadyKilowatt

It seems to me that Pelosi is the biggest problem in Washington DC today. Not the Democratic Party, not Trump, not the deep state. Nancy Pelosi has got to go. If Trump (actually any Republican) came out tomorrow with a comprehensive way to reverse climate change, that everyone said would solve the problem and not impact the economy, she'd be against it just because of who came up with it.

A fun waste of time is to look back at what she said about Bush II and how the rhetoric hasn't changed at all. In fact the only thing that seems different this time is that the botox injections might be going a little too deep.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

There is little doubt Trump voters likely changed parties for the Iowa primary and voted for Sanders. They will do this in states where they can and try and help select Sanders, a vowed socialist, as the Democratic party nominee. Trump would have little trouble winning against Sanders in that scenario.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

FWIW, Buttigieg looks like Michael Dukakis. He could literally be his son.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

The real issue is politicians kept stretching the truth for years. Now they get upset at Trump because of it ? The same was true with Republicans getting mad at Obama SOTU (anyone remember the Republican congressman yelling out "you lie" during an Obama SOTU?) This is all been a slippery slope for awhile now and it will end as it always does - with a whimper and not a bang. Bread and circuses and smartphones to keep everyone occupied.

MrGrummpy
MrGrummpy

Many in the media expected Trump to act in a conciliatory manner. They are delusional. Previous Republicans have 'offered olive branches to the opposition'. Invariably that was seen as 'weakness'. Democrats only demanded more. Trump has learned that lesson from the past. Republican voters seem to know what is going on and support just such an unapologetic stance.