Trump is Unfit For Office, Should He Be Removed Immediately?

Mish

Trump proved beyond a shadow of a doubt today that he is unfit to be president. But should he be removed immediately?

Republicans Blast Trump 

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul: "The vote today is not a protest. The vote today is literally to overturn elections."

Actual Cabinet Members Call for the 25th Amendment

House Judiciary Pushes for 25th Amendment

Miami Herald Calls for Trump's Removal

Trump is deranged, dangerous and ‘incapacitated.’ Invoke the 25th Amendment and remove him from office.

Senator Mitt Romney (R) Calls Today's Events an Insurrection

Senator Burr (R) Blasts Trump

"The President bears responsibility for today’s events by promoting the unfounded conspiracy theories that have led to this point."

Trump Will Be a Man Without a Country

Trump Staff Contemplating Quitting

Inside the Storming of the Capitol

What Will History Call Today?

US Attorney Ryan Patrick

Senator Tammy Duckworth on Trump

Senator Tom Cotton (R) Blasts Trump

Trump Has Lost It

Trump Supporters Swarm Washington State Governor's Mansion

Today in a Photo

Republicans Abandon Trump

  1. Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri a senior Republican, said he had no more interest in what Mr. Trump had to say. “I don’t want to hear anything,” he told reporters. “It was a tragic day and I think he was part of it.”
  2. Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, another Republican leader, said Mr. Trump was responsible for the violence. “There’s no question that the president formed the mob, the president incited the mob, the president addressed the mob,” she told Fox News in comments she then posted online. “He lit the flames. This is what America is not.”
  3. Tom Bossert, the president’s former homeland security adviser, called out his former boss. “This is beyond wrong and illegal,” he said on Twitter. “It’s un-American. The President undermined American democracy baselessly for months. As a result, he’s culpable for this siege, and an utter disgrace.”
  4. “There is nothing patriotic about what is occurring on Capitol Hill,” Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio tweeted. “This is 3rd world style anti-American anarchy.”
  5.  Senate Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) said any move to overturn the results would cause a “death spiral” for democracy. He said that there was no evidence of fraud “anywhere near the massive scale that would have tipped this entire election.”

Violent End of the Trump Era

Points 1-3 above from A Mob and the Breach of Democracy: The Violent End of the Trump Era

Points 4-5 and Cruz below from the WSJ.

Cruz Cast His Lot With Trump

“I understand your concerns but I urge you to pause and think, what does it say to the nearly half the country that believes this election was rigged if we vote not even to consider the claims of illegality and fraud in this election?” Mr. Cruz said.

Twitter and Facebook both suspended Trump.

Good News

  1. Trump 2024 is Now Officially History
  2. Senator Ted Cruz and his merry band of 11 Trumpian degenerates can likely kiss their presidential hopes goodbye as well.

Notes on Attempting a Civil Discussion

Mish

Comments (211)
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PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

Yes.

goldguy
goldguy

What you can't wait 3 weeks? Sheeesch!

Realist
Realist

Roughly 1600 days ago, Republicans like Graham and Cruz said that Trump was unfit for office. Then, for the last 1446 days of Trump’s presidency, they kissed his ass and told him how great he was. Now some Republicans are once again saying he is unfit for office. Though some, like Cruz, are still kissing his ass.

That he was unfit, was clear from the moment he threw his hat in the ring.

Worst President in US history.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2

LadyG kissed off the Maggot voters tonight.

goldguy
goldguy

Today was unfortunately the opening salvo for Americas next civil war. Coming out from under there desks, congress hurry's to reconvene, with not a word about the tragic death of that women killed in the peoples house. Sad day in America. Land of the free and home of the brave, not so much.

Tengen
Tengen

Ted Cruz probably thinks he can harness the energy around Trump, but he's wrong. Trump never deserved the adulation he received, even his supporters are figuring that out now.

This movement isn't political, it's just unfocused anger. While it's understandable that people are upset, they should have gotten this fired up in 2008 when we decided to print our way to oblivion. Now it's too late to return to fiscal sanity and these people are latching on to ridiculous causes like those championed by QAnon.

The people who stormed DC today will end up fighting the police and military down the road. It's just a matter of time.

Telenochek82
Telenochek82

Lots of hypocrisy and empty speeches from Republicans (except Romney). That Donald was a deranged lunatic , demagogue and criminal was obvious even before he has been elected POTUS

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

Welcome to a world where the 1st amendment is not supported.

Can you imagine a Twitter or Facebook policy maker saying, "I do not agree with your opinion but I will defend to the death your right to say it."?

It should be interesting when the guy hanging from the congressional wall or the guy in Pelosi's office are in court. Same for those who torched cars and businesses.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns

Only Warp Speed removal of King Chaos will do.
Leaving an idiot in a position of power for another two weeks would be...
idiotic.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

The Republicans should be ashamed of themselves. They enabled Trump for 4 years and have now paid dearly for it. The fact that they are still going ahead with challenges to some state’s electoral votes even after today’s events beggars belief. A sad sad day for America.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

If there are any responsible adults left in the White House then they need to step up now and move to remove Trump from office. We have heard past Democratic and Republican presidents speak up today and condemn Trump’s behavior.

numike
numike

WE HAVE BEEN WARNED "Heard Josh Hawley's speech and got deep cold chills. If he cannot be stopped now, I believe he could be the Trump successor we fear. I'm certainly not the first to say that, but that man is very dangerous."

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

25th Amendment? No. We need the .38th Amendment.

HoosierDaddy2021
HoosierDaddy2021

I hope you're right about Trump 2024, Mish. We don't need another Teddy Roosevelt with how volatile things are going to be for the foreseeable future.

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird

At most only a handful of Republicans escape blame for the events of today. They appeased Trump and his MAGA crowd for four years. It is far to late for any come to Jesus moment.

And just wondering.. think if the Floyd protesters this summer had stormed the capitol the would have been allowed to waltz in, trash the place and then go home scott free? Why were there armed battle ready guard around every location then but not today?

goldguy
goldguy

They did go scott free, with the free shit they stole from target and elsewhere.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

I've been saying here for a while now that Trump is an Enemy of American Democracy. It's not really deniable at this point.

To all of those who said it was ok to humor Trump for a little while as he tried to overturn the results of the election, this is what you get.

Carl_R
Carl_R

I don't favor using the 25th Amendment. It would be difficult to show that he is insane. I do favor impeaching him. To this point impeachment has always been used for partisan reasons, without merit, but this is exactly the kind of event that the impeachment process is designed to be used for. There is no reason they can't draft and vote on articles of impeachment tomorrow, and try him in the Senate yet this week. I can't believe anyone from either party would vote against impeaching him, or vote against convicting him, and anyone that did is unfit for office, and should be voted out at the earliest opportunity.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

Ha, ha. We'll find out who is in charge be whether anything like the 25th or impeachment or criminal trials come to Trump.

If they do, then the media is calling the shots. Trump is their gravy train.

If they don't, then the DC people are calling the shots. The last thing they want is to shine a spotlight on Trump and give him a platform.

I'm betting on the DC people.

ROGO1
ROGO1

Four dead after Trumpism supporters ransack Congress!!!…
There is only one win - win solution,
Invoke The 25th Amendment Today!

ROGO1
ROGO1

Trumpism is dead, Let's move on!...

Sechel
Sechel

Trump was unfit for office four years ago. Absurd that anyone thought He was a better option that Hillary Clinton. What Trump did yesterday encouraging a coup d'etat by organized mob and by encouraging members of the legislature to disregard the constitution was unconscionable.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels

YAP yap yap, FAKE INDIGNATION, lies lies.... HURRAY ! These are actually GREAT times for CNN and other corrupt and biased media, giving an extra dimension to the four years anti Trump narrative ! The only time CNN actually applauded Trump was when Deep State had armtwisted him into (reluctantly) missiling Syria when The Jews, SA and US supported Al Nusra(ex Al Qaeda) were losing out on their dirty games there. YES The deplorables stormed the Bastille...rrmm....The Capitol rather, corrupt stronghold of FAKE, rigged and desultory democracy, not even with sticks and pick forks but flags and banners, yet 4 were killed by trigger happy bastards probably pulling a gun for the first time in their fckn life....but that's what democracy is all about innit...Even the corrupt to the bone pathological Liar, Bush jr of all people, felt the need to comment on the 'biggest disgrace' ever... Well, this was probably the very last convulsion of a very''entertaining" Trump era.....Believe me though, life gonna be boring with a worn out, dyed-in-the-wool, deep state puppet for president.... Or will a little war here and there, some regime change in places that are none of your business keep CNN happily busy ?

Sechel
Sechel

President Donald Trump banned Vice President Mike Pence's chief of staff, Marc Short, from entering the White House after Pence refused to overturn the results of the election, according to a person close to Pence.

Short, who had once served as Trump's head of legislative affairs, had been advising Pence on the procedure for overseeing the counting of Electoral College votes. Trump had pressured Pence in recent days to reject the election results, which Pence said he didn't have the ability to do under the Constitution.

Sechel
Sechel

Reporting has it that Pence is done with Trump and visibly angry at his conduct. Thee was no one more loyal to Trump than Mike Pence but that's over now. He was seen as visibly angry at Trump's conduct yesterday at the Senate.

oee
oee

we need impeachment and removal by Congress This is once again Congress abdicating its responsibility.

thedirtymac
thedirtymac

#defundthepolice had a really bad day.

Lance Manly
Lance Manly

I guess the 25th amendment stuff scared him, he backed down.

Rbm
Rbm

Like dealing with your kids. If you let a behavior slide its going to reinforce their belief they can do it again.

Rbm
Rbm

Whats on parlor these days

Sechel
Sechel

Let's repeat this. Twitter and Facebook determined that Donald Trump was not fit for social media and yet Trump is still deemed fit to lead the U.S. government. Trump needs to be removed now

There are a whole bunch of Republican's today pretending they helped pull out the fire when they were among the arsonists lighting the fire

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

He needs to be gone now....but Congress doesn’t have what it takes to do it.

We need to reform a system that lets this happen in the first place.

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

In a predictable response, the MAGA cult is claiming what we saw yesterday was staged, fake news and the violence was committed by ANTIFA without any proof to back up their claims. Fox News reports the first woman shot by law enforcement was in fact a 14 year veteran of the Air Force and a strong Trump supporter. She was not ANTIFA.

Trump and his supporters have never been conservative. They are more like the libtards they hate, never taking responsibility for the actions of Trump and constantly playing the victim card. This is the Trump legacy for me.

The Constitution and our freedom is worth giving out lives for. Donald Trump is not. This woman should be alive today celebrating life with her husband. Instead she is dead thanks to the lies and actions of Donald Trump and her own lack of judgment. Self responsibility use to be a conservative value.

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

Today, we started to see the spineless Republicans who for four years let Trump get away with the behavior that led to the riots begin to distant themselves from Trump. They began to condemn him with a few exceptions like Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley who will fight for the votes of the trash that stormed the Capitol in three short years. It's going to be hard to forget those who constantly built up the fake narrative of Donald Trump like Rand Paul who continued to push the lies that Trump got us out of endless wars among others. They enabled this man and called him friend.

The GOP would be best to move on today. I would start by kicking the entire Trump family out of the GOP.

I am curious of when many of our Trump cultist friends like my mother will distance themselves from Trump when they figure out he isn't this great Christian man they have painted him to be.

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

Anyone know what Trump's evangelical leader base has said/done since yesterday's Save America event/riot?

Realist
Realist

You will now see many of Trump’s staff and appointees begin to “wash their hands” of Trump, much like Pontius Pilate, thinking that they can now absolve themselves of their sins over the last four years.

njbr
njbr

If you're marching at the front of an armed mob, the closest target is you.

The delusion of the mob is clear in their lack of realization that the Pence, Cruz, Hawley and others were just playing them, and just as they said, they would abandon their bogus claims as soon as they played out their pantomime.

Is this the demographic that Pence, Cruz and Hawley see as their long-term political future? They might start to notice that both Cruz and Hawley sent out fund-raising pleas during the insurrection and were hiding under their desks, also. They didn't rise, throw open the doors to the chamber, and say "Have your way!"

As for the Trumps, Daddy blew the kids social capital, and ultimately will undercut the future of that wing of the party--after all, there can be no other claimant to the throne when Trump is alive. "sacred landslide", indeed!

He needs to go right away, but his party knows that that would be a final blow, splitting the party forever. So it won't happen, even at the risk of further damage.

Sechel
Sechel

Mulvaney just resigned. He thinks Trump has deterioriated over the past eight months. No he hasn't. What's changed is nobody is able to restrain little Anthony Fremont anymore.

G Croce
G Croce

If he is not removed, then he has exposed the weakess of democratic government.
His storm troopers walk away free and energized.
His toadies in government are supported by half the electorate.
Half the troops and cops at the Capitol who surrounded the Proud Boys voted for Trump.
Why was the FBI not on top of this?
The restrictions on voting will intensify, led by people like Ted Cruz.
At some point Trump, Guiliani et alia must be jailed for sedition, and not for lesser crimes.

njbr
njbr

Profiles in courage??

“All I can say is count me out,” said Graham, who earlier in the day praised President-elect Joe Biden’s statement on the violence. “Enough is enough. I’ve tried to be helpful.”

And Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), another solid Trump supporter, said from the floor that “the vote today is literally to overturn elections,” and called it “the opposite of what states’ rights Republicans have always advocated for.”

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

Sad state of affairs when Facebook and Twitter are acting more responsibly than senior members of the Trump administration.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

The Trump presidency is a study in how a deranged individual can be elevated to high office......based primarily on his celebrity.....and some carefully calculated bombast fed to him by social media experts.

And then.......how it can turn into a cult of personality.....as a bevy of rank political opportunists try to use the popularity of a crazy man for their own ends.

It exposed a vulnerability in our system that nobody ever thought about...or at least ever considered likely to happen in the real world.

Interestingly, the idea has been explored in fiction......Stephen King wrote a character just like Trump into The Stand....the similarities to Trump are eerily similar.

I expect that Trump will be allowed to get away with this serious crime.....just like he’s skated on his crimes for his entire tenure as President...and indeed, throughout his whole career.

Nobody who really followed Trump’s career for his adult life and payed attention to what he’s actually done...as opposed to what he says.....ever thought this would end well.

I doubt we can put this back in the box.....that’s the scary thing.....

FromBrussels
FromBrussels

When Trump defeated the spiteful Clinton bitch in 2016 albeit with a narrow margin, the blue sore losers, the Deep State Neo con lords and their fckn CNN outlet, never ever really managed to accept and digest their defeat and subsequently decided to boycot Trump's presidency during 4 fckn years ! Now, the 'deplorables' as Billary condescendingly called them, don t accept the, most likely fraudulent, election outcome .....SO TELL ME what the fck is wrong with that ? If the fckn Capitol really is the symbol of fckn american democracy, WHY would it be it a fckn 'sacred' and elitarian place deplorables should be excluded from?.... Or is so called democracy becoming more and more of a symbolic comforter to sooth the masses in order to allow the privileged establishment to get away with their enviable and limitless privileged existence?

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

Is America Great Again? Is this what American greatness looks like?

The future dissection of Donald Trump's presidency will be blessed as the insiders won't have to fear Trump's rage as they come out to tell us the stories of the dysfunction. The Trump brand is forever damaged after yesterday.

Rbm
Rbm

Yes and the republicans should be the ones to do it

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

The irony is Trump's ego in the White House basically destroyed the Trump brand in the business world yesterday. It will be interesting to watch him suffer the long-term effects of this as he returns to civilian life. We already know he has hefty loan payments coming up, and we will soon see how limited his solutions to cover this debt are as he is clearly toxic.

Irondoor
Irondoor

Before we drown Trump in the Potomoc, let's take a couple of days to make absolutely sure that those who broke into the Capital building were in fact Trump supporters. It is likely that after police analysis we will find that many of the leaders were Antifa from various cities around the country and bussed or flown in for just this purpose. We also need to examine the reportedly lax Capital police who let down the barriers and invited the mob in. The Deep State will do anything to discredit the only man willing to stand up against the Red Menace. Unfortunately, he's not the best man for the job. Is Joe?

Then we can get on with the business of peaceful transition of power and invite Trump to leave the country never to be heard from again.

njbr
njbr

A WH official says this AM that Trump still plans to award the Medal of Freedom to 3 golfers today during an 11:30a East Room ceremony.

Corvinus
Corvinus

Before you all indulge in your outrage fantasies any further consider the repercussions that further censuring of the President will cause. Which do you think is the more likely scenario:

  1. That congressional action to oust the president will be the lesson that finally gets all those ~80 Million uneducated rubes that voted for the President in 2020 to see the light and realize how much better off they will be with Biden.

  2. Ousting the President 3 weeks before the inauguration will be seen as the final humiliation of their side by the Deep State and foment even more frustration and anger against a government they feel not only doesn't represent them but is corrupt and actively works against them.


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