Nauseating But Predicted: Biden Selects Kamala Harris as His VP Running Mate

Mish

As widely expected, Joe Biden named Senator Kamala Harris as his running mate.

The WSJ reports Kamala Harris Named as Joe Biden’s VP Pick

Joe Biden named Sen. Kamala Harris of California as his running mate, picking his former Democratic primary opponent to be the first Black woman and the first woman of Asian descent nominated for vice president by a major party.

Mr. Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, described Ms. Harris as “one of the country’s finest public servants” in a tweet announcing his decision Tuesday. 

“Back when Kamala was Attorney General, she worked closely with Beau,” he wrote, referring to his late son, Beau Biden, who worked with Ms. Harris while serving as Delaware’s attorney general. “I watched as they took on the big banks, lifted up working people, and protected women and kids from abuse. I was proud then, and I’m proud now to have her as my partner in this campaign.”

Nauseating But Predictable 

This is as nauseating as it was predictable.

It will not help Biden beat Trump, but Trump is so far behind it likely does not matter.

I cannot support this ticket, nor can I support Trump.

In that regard, nothing really changed. No matter who Biden picked, I was not about to endorse him. 

But Biden's caving into the progressive wing of the party with a political opportunist  like Harris is sickening to say the least.

Mish

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Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

Harris is not progressive. She is reactionary as all get out -- a drug warrior and tough-on-crime soft-on-cops prosecutor. This is quite the authoritarian, right-leaning Dem ticket.

Herkie
Herkie

Mish if you remember I said she was the one person on his list he could pick that would mean for the first time since I was 18 in 1976 I just would not vote. I will take a look at local candidates, and state propositions in case there is some I want to suport or oppose, but I see the odds of Biden making it to 01/20/2025 as just not good enough, so his VP choice was very important to me, critical in fact.

For me, she was strongly in favor of a Universal Basic Income, and surprisingly as a financial graduate, I do not necessarily oppose a UBI. I see it as a continuous devlauation such that the more cash/assets valued in dollars you have, the more you lose. And SOMETHING must be done about wealth inequality.

But Harris's proposed UBI was not U(niversal). It was not even a basic income. I was instead a wage support for the low income which deliberately and specifically discriminated against disabled veterans such as myself. Their (Yang shared her plan and also cut out disabled) plan called for an amount that is substantially higher than SSI but only for working people (and some question whether or not students would be entitled to it) with the explanation that the disabled are already getting money/income from the government. That explains NOTHING. They want to give it to working people already getting money from employers but disabled vets nope.

Her plan was in fact a wage support for working people that phased out at $50,000 so that if you are making minimum wage you will get the full amount, only at about $33k do your benefits start to drop until you reach $50k (single person) where you would get nothing.

For me the problem is that there is going to be advancing inflation that goes with any UBI, that is WHY it can only be supported if it is in fact UNIVERSAL. It would create a huge super underclass that would be even more desperately poor than homeless people are now. I would have to deal with inflation even as my pay declines. I am already anything but middle class. Her proposal would send me instantly into maybe not poverty, but serious low income status. I would be taking home less than the famous burger flippers.

Just not going to vote for someone that targets me and my fellow disabled vets for degrading humiliating lowering to untouchable status. By the way have you ever heard her mention veterans? She has many affiliations with people that that refer to us as babykillers. And politically she sees stats that say vets vote GOP at almost 80%. So we are not a demographic she will ever court.

Sechel
Sechel

Not my first or second pick for VP who was Klobuchar and then Rice respectively but anything is better than Trump. I'd support a smelly tuna fish sandwich over Donald Trump.

It's not that I don't like Harris I don't see how she adds to the electoral map or will work well with Biden or has the experience once in office Klobuchar did the former, Rice the latter. Klobuchar will bring energy to the campaign trail and should match up very well against Pence. She's not a governor so lacks the executive experience and doesn't have the deep foreign policy experience either. I see Harris as sort of doubling down on a base. Biden has the black vote just like Trump has the under-educated white vote.

But let's be honest a Biden Harris ticket is better than a Trump Pence. Other than being a sycophant and strong with evangelicals Pence doesn't bring anything to Trump's ticket.

Sechel
Sechel

@Mish Editor I don't see Harris as being the progressive. If he wanted that he would have gone with Sanders or Warren. One of the reasons Harris lost the primary was because she wasn't progressive or establishment. She failed to gain traction
because she wasn't in either lane.

What also did Harris in was she's a bit of a grand-stander and engages in publicity stunts like at the Kavanagh hearing

I'll say it again. You're going to get Biden or Trump. You say you're ambivalent but the choices are so different I find hard to believe. I think you're taking the George Carlin approach.

Tengen
Tengen

Kamala is probably the worst human being of any of these VP candidates, but as others have said this was entirely predictable.

There is a lot of dark humor in this presidential race. Just like Trump plays rural Americans for fools, Harris loves bringing the hammer down on poor black people in particular. Both she and Biden are "law and order" types who always want to imprison more people.

As much as I want to rail on about elite corruption, regular Americans have to show they no longer have the stomach to be used as punching bags. If they refuse to stand up for themselves, they deserve everything they get!

Realist
Realist

I couldn't have cared less who Biden chose as his VP running mate. And I am surprised by comments that it makes a difference to anyone who now won't vote for Biden because of his choice of Harris.

All that matters to me is that come inauguration day, someone in the US will finally begin a national strategy to deal with the pandemic, which due to Trump’s complete lack of leadership, will still be causing deaths and preventing the US economy from recovering. Too bad the US had to wait an entire year!

Let's compare today's numbers of cases and deaths.

US 54,519:1,504

Canada 289:4

Italy 412:6

Ireland 33:1

Austria 139:0

Denmark 144:1

South Korea 34:0

Finland 22:0

Hong Kong 33:3

New Zealand 1:0

Russell J
Russell J

Pelosi, Newsom and Harris.. the bay area trifecta!!

Everything is gonna be just great now.

tokidoki
tokidoki

I now expect Trump to win. It will be a repeat of 2016.

nlightn
nlightn

Biden chickened out choosing Harris,..period.

My choice was Klobuchar,..then possibly Warren or Sanders if he really wanted to shake things up.

With Biden we're getting the same ole same ole.

Boring and predictable.

Lets not forget Biden was the asshole that gave us the Patriot Act in form and substance,..granted it was eventually adopted by the Repub's,..but this IS the man who initiated taking away our rights.

https://ritholtz.com/2011/12/the-core-of-the-patriot-act-was-drafted-in-1995-...-by-joe-biden/
numike
numike

"There is hope, but not for us."
Franz Kafka

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

For those who feel that Harris was "predicted" or "predictable", please check for when you predicted her. And dismissed the others.

If you can't find your prediction, consider that other parts of your thinking may be as muddled.

On Monday, predicting the game score is easy. Predictable, really.

suricatta
suricatta

'I cannot support this ticket' - I expected better from you Mish.
As a North European living in the US for the past 20 years, the general lack of political maturity here never ceases to astound me. We don't get the parents we want, nor the kids, nor partner - and we sure as hell will never get the ticket we want. Politics (in case you haven't noticed) never offers anyone their 'perfect ticket'. Rather it allows us to pick the lesser evil. Let me explain with a metaphor: If you're dying of thirst and someone offer you a glass of milk - even if you normally hate the stuff, will you say 'no thanks', or will you drink it? I hope you're rational enough to choose the latter.
Then why, after (correctly) vilifying Trump every day, can't you as an intelligent and well informed citizen endorse Biden?
I'm really curious.

nzyank
nzyank

Mish - would be great if you stated why you don't like Harris other than just stating she is "nauseating", which is not meaningful. Please follow this up with some more substantive thinking.

Biden/Harris have laid out much more reasoned and thoughtful policies for our country (https://joebiden.com/) than Trump/Pence has laid out or demonstrated over the past 4 years, and they are well suited to build and lead a moderate coalition that can work to heal the divisions that have been greatly exacerbated both domestically and internationally. I also trust them as individuals to do what is in the best interest of the country, whereas I have no trust in our current President in this regard.

TeleAllende
TeleAllende

Harris is neither a progressive, nor the best VP pick as far as the electorate is concerned. However Kamala Harris and Beau Biden were close friends, and so Joe Biden feels that he can trust her the most out of all the candidates.
From an electorate standpoint - Kamala Harris will certainly help with African American and other ethnic group votes, but does not do much with other constituencies.
Here in CA I'm not too happy with Kamala, seems like a career opportunist without a very solid track record of working policies and getting things done the right way.

Jojo
Jojo

Picking Harris was Biden's payback to Jim Clyburn for resurrecting his campaign from the dead. She will likely become president when Biden is forced to bow out due to mental issues before his term is up. That's the plan Sam.

59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House
Monday, August 10, 2020

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Trump is still way more nauseating.

Mish you are showing your spots here. How come a word like nauseating is only used for a woman ? Trump is a nasty parasite. Notice I didnt say human or being. You actually have to have some consciousness for that.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Mish in Utah your vote does not matter just as mine doesn't in California. Harris will bring out suburban voters once they get to know her in the South. And that is where Trump will unexpectedly get grinded to a pulp. Suburbs of cities like Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Atlanta, Denver are increaingly becoming places where Republicans are in trouble. Biden is taking a different strategy with this election. The places where Trump won like the Detroit suburbs are where he is in deep trouble already. If the turnout is higher because of Harris this will seal Trump's fate. Harris will not only attract the black vote but also the Asian-American vote. Trump has been so anti race and white supremacist that he wont have the advantages he did in 2016.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

The final calculus: Biden wins and serves a 4 year term unless he dies or retires first. I dont envision Harris winning in 2024 assuming she is the nominee.

So we all have to grin and bear it like we did with Trump, from one nightmare onto another....out of the frying pan and into the fire...only in America.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Mish this election is really about competence. Read Michael Lewis' book thr Fifth Risk to understand why Trump has failed. The main job of a president is to manage risk and Trump has failed the country and the world. He simply doesnt think anything needs to be managed. This is what you get when you get a real estate magnate (glorified salesman) as President.

bradw2k
bradw2k

What awful people the Dems have chosen. And I've never been a nose-holding voter, but I'm considering it this year ... almost compelled to believe there's a moral duty to be part of a popular landslide against Trump's chaos and recklessness.

BillSanDiego
BillSanDiego

From Willie Brown's bed to the White House is a journey I simply cannot stomach. Is that what this nation has come to? Really?

Mish
Mish

Editor

  1. I am a libertarian - I would not have endorsed Biden no matter who his running mate. Nor can I vote for Trump.

  2. I did not predict Harris. I did not predict anyone. But she was the odds-on favorite from start to finish. I said who I liked. Klobuchar.

  3. Harris was a nauseating pick. Period. I would have said the same about Warren but it has nothing to do with either of them being a woman. I can't stand their politics.

Klobuchar would not have been nauseating - nor would the Atlanta Mayor. The latter if only because I do not know enough about her.

That Harris is nauseating does not imply Trump isn't. But Trump had no pick to make, nauseating or otherwise.

I will post all kinds of reasons in a follow-up post.

jacob_zuma
jacob_zuma

Harris is not progressive. A lot of people on the left are upset by this choice. So far it seemed as though Biden would easily beat Trump, but with this choice I suspect a lot of Millenials will just not bother voting, and Trump will have a better chance in swing states.

Breen
Breen

I will not vote at all. Biden is too old and will likely die in office. He only picked a (incompetent) black woman for "affirmative action" and to get the blacks to vote for him. If they had gone to the polls for Hillary, like they did for Obama, Trump would not be president. Biden should have picked Chang or Buttigieg.

Anna 7
Anna 7

Mish,

But Biden's caving into the progressive wing of the party

Please watch any Jimmy Dore video about Kamala:

The Democrat party is controlled opposition. And the job of their press is to make actual left-wingers look bad. They’d rather lose the general election than run a clean primary and nominate an anti-war anti-oligarchy candidate.

Rusty Nail
Rusty Nail

I think she's a fine choice and I feel more enthusiastic about the Democratic ticket now. If she's a political opportunist, so was every other candidate in 2020, up to and including Bernie Sanders. I can't help suspecting that the choice of physiological language (nauseating) has an emotional source that comes from somewhere not rational. Harris is a middle-of-the-road Democrat in 2020. She's a competent administrator who could step in and handle the ultimate job from day one as needed. You absolutely cannot say that about Trump.

Polling on Kamala Harris does not support arguments that she will hurt Biden's chances. Anyone who thinks Harris is left as a Democrat in 2020 would never have been happy with anyone Biden chose.

Montana33
Montana33

I should add that I understand that there is no party for people like you. The Republican Party has morphed into a tribe driven by fear and misinformation with zero interest in conservative policies that people like you valued. Trump has ended the party. A person who did believe in historical Republican values cannot support the Democratic Party any more than they can Support the thing that the “Republicans” have become. People like you need a third party and there are a lot of people like you. Republicans are now the party of grievance for white men with no college education. That is their core demographic - their true base and that is not you. You are in a very tough spot. You could try to fight to get it back but I don’t see any viable strategy coming from you here. The Lincoln project is trying to engineer a wipeout of Trump so they can then reform the party back to what it was. They can only reclaim it if Trump get slaughtered. If it’s close - then they lose their party forever and they’ll have to join the Democrats and try to move us more toward center right. I never liked the Republican Party because it’s always been anti-woman and pro white, but the old guard weren’t trying to destroy the country and Democracy. I long for the days when my complaints about Republicans were more policy driven and not driven by their overt racism, hatred and conspiracy theories.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill

I think there is a side of Kamala Harris that would fit right in with the GOP as Mr. Purple notes above.

suricatta
suricatta

I'm not a fan of either Biden nor Harris. My choice would have been Klobuchar as candidate for POTUS. But it is what it is - in an imperfect democracy imperfect people have chosen this Dem ticket. Now the only question is: who will do less damage to the country - and the world? That's your rational vote. Anyone who insists on their dream ticket and doesn't vote or votes for a 3rd party will make it more likely that the madman in the WH continues his work of destruction. Irrational votes for Jill Stein where one of the reasons Trump won key swing states in 2016.
Making my drink analogy a bit simpler to understand:
You're dying of thirst, someone offers you 1/2 full glass of water. Not voting, or voting for a pie in the sky 3rd party candidate equals rejecting that half glass, because you insist you deserve a full one.
That's not a rational decision, though.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2

I look forward to President Harris.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

And I very much look forward to Trump being indicted.

Sechel
Sechel

Kamalah Harris is not progressive. Reports claiming she is are just Republican smear for 2020. What is true is Biden sought progressive support going into 2020 so his campaign and Sanders campaign came up with a common platform so there was a move to the left but it has nothing to do with VP choice. Grain of salt however recommended as the most far left positions were turned down.

xardoz
xardoz

To all those saying I will not vote, that in and of itself is a vote for whoever wins so whoever we get it will be directly related to you. You don't get to claim "Well I did not vote for them so its not my fault" it will be your fault whoever wins plain and simple.

Curious-Cat
Curious-Cat

"No matter who Biden picked, I was not about to endorse him. "

Mish, with all due respect, if you are indifferent to whom Biden chose, why do you label this choice nauseating?

VKL
VKL

WHERE IS THE GROWTH TODAY!

UNDERGROUND! AS THE PEOPLE SAY THEY LET MURDERS GO AND THEY KILL AGAIN PLUS THE POLICE ARE BEING HAMPERED AND SHUT DOWN SO WHO CARES.
JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST SOME WILL BE TOTALLY UNDER THE MARK, SOME WILL GO BOTH WAYS, AND THE REST THE DOWNTRODDEN WILL BE HORSETRADING TO SURVIVE!

LET FREEDOM RING!

Mish
Mish

Editor

I banned Montana33 for saying this "Mish would not call a white, male Senator with the exact same resume as Kamala an opportunist. He is biased against women and/or women of color and he probably has no idea."

In addition, I removed every comment he ever made (in progress - It may take a while but is automatic). I will not tolerate such accusations.

For the record, I praised Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms

Good Riddance to Montana33 - I give a lot of leeway, not that.

Cocoa
Cocoa

Biden won't last more than 2 years. President harris

Fl0yd
Fl0yd

@Mish and others: Could you please explain your concerns about Haris?

Webej
Webej

The problem with this ticket is that it simply represents power on the part of the Dems; anything Biden or Harris says about uplifting or helping anybody is simply political calculation. In the end, they support their donors, the military industrial complex, the corrupt elites, and have no real program. Biden supported big finance and credit card companies in Delaware. He has been on the wrong side of all the major mistakes of the past. He helped to dismantling one of the only things that America always had over other countries: the possibility of bankruptcy and getting out from under your debts and starting over again (inscribed in the text of the liberty bell). Virtually all countries tie debtors to their fate perpetually.
Harris has proved above all to want to climb upward, and has no qualms about the means to get higher up.
Both are empty vessels chosen by Dem apparatchiks as least likely to lose them the elections.

footwedge
footwedge

I have been following Mish for about 15 years and I always give him some slack on those occasions when I don't agree with him. This will be an exception. Predictable, maybe. Nauseating? Not even close. As noted by others here it wouldn't make any difference who he selected, their flaws would be focused on first and this is especially true when it's a woman, which we all knew it would be. Kamala wasn't my first choice but in the end she'll be fine. She's smart and an ass kicker, which Joe needs since he seems incapable of actual fight. (And you may have noticed that Republicans fight dirty so maybe she can help there too.) Of course, she has warts, BFD! Who doesn't in politics?! Opportunist? Yup, again BFD. She's modestly progressive which, again Joe needs. Overall, as is usually the case, the VP is not going to win or lose an election - but this one is the democrats to lose (of which they are fully capable.) Love you, Mish, but rethink your position on this.

ski24
ski24

bad choice and I stand in line with my brothers for my 2nd rights

ski24
ski24

his pick was totally racist. where was the best pick for a qualified black man? is he saying there wasn't any other race that had a qualified person by stating he was going to pick a black woman . because of the color of her skin? and gender? we all are in trouble and so is he. Clinton's and obama are going to knock him off.