Hunter Biden Story is All Shell and No Bomb

Mish

Every day we see another alleged "Bombshell" Hunter Biden allegation. I can logically explain, on many fronts, why there is nothing to the allegations.

Allegations and Nothing More

In a sizzling headline, the Wall Street Journal reported Hunter Biden’s Ex-Business Partner Alleges Father Knew About Venture. 

The subtitle told the real story: "Records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden".

Text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.

Mr. Gilliar told the Journal: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former Vice President. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.” 

In the correspondence provided by Mr. Bobulinski, an email he received from Mr. Gilliar in May 2017 proposed a possible equity arrangement for the five partners. The email references “10 held by H for the big guy?” Mr. Bobulinski said the “H” referred to Hunter Biden and the “big guy” was Joe Biden. Mr. Gilliar didn’t respond to a request for comment, nor did the other partner in the venture, Mr. Walker.

One Last Story to Tell

The New York Times reports Trump Had One Last Story to Sell. The Wall Street Journal Wouldn’t Buy It.

Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor and now a lawyer for President Trump, burst onto the scene with the tabloid version of the McLean crew’s carefully laid plot. Mr. Giuliani delivered a cache of documents of questionable provenance — but containing some of the same emails — to The New York Post, a sister publication to The Journal in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. Mr. Giuliani had been working with the former Trump aide Steve Bannon, who also began leaking some of the emails to favored right-wing outlets. 

Mr. Trump and his allies expected the Journal story to appear Monday, Oct. 19, according to Mr. Bannon. That would be late in the campaign, but not too late — and could shape that week’s news cycle heading into the crucial final debate last Thursday. An “important piece” in The Journal would be coming soon, Mr. Trump told aides on a conference call that day.

“The editors didn’t like Trump’s insinuation that we were being teed up to do this hit job,” a Journal reporter who wasn’t directly involved in the story told me.

Asked about The Journal’s handling of the story, the editor in chief, Matt Murray, said the paper did not discuss its newsgathering. “Our rigorous and trusted journalism speaks for itself,” Mr. Murray said in an emailed statement.

Alleged Bombshell After Bombshell 

Since then we have seen nothing but allegations with no substance. 

Giuliani drip-feeds alleged "bombshell" emails to any news outlet sleazy enough to post them. 

Biden's Debate Response

Trump: I think you owe an explanation to the American people. ... I think you have to clean it up and talk to the American people. Maybe you can do it right now.

Biden:  I have not taken a penny from any foreign source in my life. We learned this president paid 50 times in tax in China than he did in the United States. He had a secret bank account with China, does business in China, and in fact is talking about me taking money. I have not taken a single penny from any country whatsoever. Number 2. I have released all of my tax returns, 22 years, go look at them. [pointing to Trump] You have not released a single solitary return. 

Trump threw a fat pitch and Biden blasted it out of the park. It was his best performance in the debate.

Senator Ted Cruz (R) Texas on Hunter Biden

Please consider Ted Cruz doesn't think the Hunter Biden attacks are working.

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz told "Axios on HBO" he doesn't think the Trump campaign's focus on the Biden family's business dealings are having any sway with voters.

The big picture: After watching the Trump-Biden debate with "Axios on HBO" on Thursday night, Cruz said he thought Trump had done very well. But when asked whether he thought voters were moved by the release of the Hunter Biden emails, Cruz replied, "I don't think it moves a single voter." 

Cruz also said that "one of Biden's best points was when he said, 'All of these attacks back and forth about my family and his family, they don't matter. What matters is your family.'"

Why it matters: Cruz is not alone in this view. One of Trump's top advisers told me he had urged Trump to stop talking about anything to do with Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton's emails or "Russiagate" and to instead focus solely on the economy.

Scott Adams on How to Tell a Liar

In Lie Detection and Scandals Dilbert creator Scott Adams explains how to detect a liar. 

Did you commit the crime?
Liar: “Who told you that?” 
Honest Person: “Hell no. I was at work. You can check.” 
Prepared/coached Liar: “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”

Notice that you can’t always tell the difference between an honest answer and a well-coached liar. But the liar without good coaching is as obvious as a lighthouse.

Perhaps Biden was just "well coached", so believe what you want. 

But despite clearly coming across as honest, including a smart counterattack, every day I hear calls for Biden to "come clean". 

I have a question of my own, with far more merit.

What the Hell is Trump Hiding?

In contrast to the straightforward and precise response of Biden, one has to wonder what what the hell Trump is hiding with his tax returns.

All Shell, No Bomb (No Pea Either)

Next, let's consider the Rudy Giuliani drip-leak-drip-leak method of email leaks to any news organization sleazy enough to take rumors and allegations and portray them as "bombshells". 

First, please note that over 60 million votes have now been cast in the election. That's an important observation to my line of questioning.

Questions Abound 

  1. If Rudy Giuliani really had anything of substance, wouldn't he, shouldn't he have released the Hunter Biden hard drive to reputable news agencies long ago?
  2. If there was anything other than allegations, and recall the WSJ could not see anything from cherry-picked emails, then what else is there but allegations? 
  3. Is there something on the hard drive that Giuliani is hiding that actually vindicates Joe Biden?
  4. Is Giuliani really that incompetent to actually have the goods on Joe Biden but is delaying releasing the goods, while over 60 million people cast votes?

Conclusion

There are only sleazy allegations, nothing more, with an emphatic denial to boot, especially if you like the reasoning of Scott Adams.

Question number 4 gets to the heart of the matter.

Giuliani's line of attack is quite similar to the sleazy allegations Democrats used against Trump's Supreme Court nominee, now Justice, Brett Kavanaugh.

There is no bombshell. There isn't even a pea, but people will believe what they want to believe.

Mish

Comments (99)
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Sechel
Sechel

Even Cruz says voters do not care

The big picture: After watching the Trump-Biden debate with "Axios on HBO" on Thursday night, Cruz said he thought Trump had done very well. But when asked whether he thought voters were moved by the release of the Hunter Biden emails, Cruz replied, "I don't think it moves a single voter."

Cruz also said that "one of Biden's best points was when he said, 'All of these attacks back and forth about my family and his family, they don't matter. What matters is your family.'"
Why it matters: Cruz is not alone in this view. One of Trump's top advisers told me he had urged Trump to stop talking about anything to do with Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton's emails or "Russiagate" and to instead focus solely on the economy.

Sechel
Sechel

I believe the laptop didn't come from Russian intelligence. I believe Hunter Biden flew from his home in Los Angeles to Philadelphia, and then took a train to Delaware, because he needed a legally blind repairman there to fix his laptop. I believe Rudy Giuliani when he says the odds are "no better than 50/50" he worked with a Russian agent to dig up dirt on the Bidens.

Sechel
Sechel

Rudy wants us to believe he was duped by Borat but is incapable of being duped by the Russians. This assumes Rudy is innocetn in all this which I don't believe. I believe Bide was the candidate that most scared Trump ad he set Rudy to Ukraine to fabricate a smear. This was the whole impeachment argument and I believe the case was made.

KidHorn
KidHorn

Bobulinski is going to be on Tucker Carlson Tonight. Maybe something new will emerge.

Sechel
Sechel

Hunter Bide is waste of time. Want to know what will decide the election? "It's the Pandemic, Stupid" Just updating the Bill Clinton line

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

What we do know. A sex tape with a man that looks like Hunter exist with the man smoking crack. Hunter Biden worked for a Ukrainian gas firm. Hunter Biden took money from the Chinese for something. A hard drive exist and a business associate will speak on Fox News tonight.

Why, how, when and what will be discovered at some point. I hope this is investigated as rigorously as Trump’s Russia connections were regardless.

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

I keep hearing 60 million votes already cast. Here is the reality. If you votes early you mind was made up long ago. No evidence for or against was going to change your mind.

katt975
katt975

Biden's a crook. I'm not even American and I can see it. The world is watching , we can all see it. The one sided media coverage is an embarrassment to America.

Eighthman
Eighthman

One item that went unnoticed: the dishonest knee jerk response of Biden and US mass media that Russia did it. Cheap and dangerous politics. I don't blame Russia and China in the least for recently saying that trying to negotiate with the US or getting any moderate coexistence is hopeless. If they can bring down the dollar (30% overvalued?), they can get some peace away from this decaying empire.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

With 6 days and 14 hours to election, it doesnt matter one bit to most people. The fact Texas is a close race tells you all you need to know how people are voting. If the reddest of red states have doubt.....

Herkie
Herkie

A) Hunter Biden is not running for office, he is a private citizen and may do his business as he sees fit provided he is not breaking laws, and nobody has accused him of breaking any laws Trump does not break all the time.

B) Compare Hunter Biden to Trump and his mafia cabal, even if absolutely everything the right is claiming were true the Biden's would still be clean by comparison to people we know are up to their necks in swampy sewage.

C) Look at where the so called evidence supposedly came from, I would treat it with the same level of respect as if it came from The Onion. Just because YOU could not duplicate and phony up a convincing looking piece of false evidence does not mean the russians cannot, they can and provably have.

D) Any claims that Joe Biden was in a corrupt business relationship with his son engaged in influence peddling in Ukraine or russia, a clim Tsar Vladimir flatly refutes as of this week, there is not and never has been any allegation (that can be taken seriously) that Joe was selling his office while he was in government, reminder, he has been a private citizen since 01/20/17 and could have if he so wished do business there or anywhere else as a private citizen, he had no influence or office to peddle, thus the accusations are false.

I am not making excuses for him or the party, none of these accusations has any credibility at all, that might be a function of who is flogging these false claims and where they originated. But, for those that believe that where there is smoke there is fire you need to consider the above and remember that the GOP mafia operatives (several convicted and more awaiting trial on corruption charges) know that all they have to do to cost the election for the democrats is create enough smoke and illusion that a few people just do not vote, do not be one of those dumb enough to fall for this AGAIN!

ShowMeTheData
ShowMeTheData

Trump argument: Biden's son is corrupt and is using his power to profit.

My argument: Trump is corrupt and using his power to profit, in plain sight.

Trump has been DIRECTLY using his presidency power to drive money to his hotels and resorts in plain sight. Now he is trying to say that Biden shouldn't be elected because someone is SUPPOSEDLY INDIRECTLY using his power to make money.

Too much BS
Too much BS

How is it that the Republican party mysteriously keeps finding laptops? Easy they buy them at Best Buy.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

Partisan mudslinging and attempts to use emails and taped calls and video to prove wrongdoing on the part of the "other side"...no matter which side that is.....has been so overblown for the last four years that I think most people simply filter it out..

The Dems tried to use emails to prove their Russiagate investigation had merit.....with very limited success. Now the Republicans are doing it to try to smear Biden.....so what?

Trump has been demanding dirt...he could use....and this is the best they could do....it isn't good enough, at least so far. It isn't going to change the votes already cast, no matter what. It probably won't change many votes that haven't been cast either.

Both sides trust their media....Fox is right biased.....CNN and the NYT are left biased. Pick your poison.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

Nobody except Trump supporters care about this.

Why?

Because after almost 4 years of non-stop rapid fire lying, starting with day 1 inauguration crowd size, Trump has zero credibility.

Roger_Ramjet
Roger_Ramjet

I'm bettin' that this post won't be picked up by ZeroHedge.

EGW
EGW

I believe the American people deserve transparency on both "Bidengate" (whatever you want to call it) and Trump's tax returns.

RonJ
RonJ

"Allegations and Nothing More"

Documented evidence.

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

Sucks to be Rudy Giulliani. If Trump loses after banking it all on this pathetic October surprise, Guilliani will be summed up by Trump as worthless in the coming weeks.

Dodge Demon
Dodge Demon

Mish, just heard Hunter Biden in his own words on a call on national pulse website. He included reference to SDNY involved.

With that flourish I agree with you that this will go nowhere.

Congratulations on another great call!!!

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

Not a fan of Olbermann, but a friend just sent this to me pointing out not only the holes in the Biden story but the hypocrisy of the Trump's in this matter.

Mish
Mish

Editor

Don't post bullshit news from sleazy tabloids.
It will get you banned and all comments deleted.

Realist
Realist

Poor Mish. He is taking a lot of abuse from Trump’s cult members. It appears that if you don’t worship Trump, they will immediately start to call you a left winger, socialist, or in the pockets of the Democrats.

Mish voted for Trump in 2016, and for Jorgenson in 2020. He certainly did not vote for Biden, and has not said much that is positive about Biden as best I can recall.

I find it hilarious that Trump cult members are so anxious to believe rumours about mythical shady dealings in the Biden family, when Trump has spent his entire life doing shady deals, and won’t release his taxes, as it would likely expose some of his shady activities.

Sadly, his cult members are willing to drink the kool-aid.

ThinkAboutItMan
ThinkAboutItMan

Naivety abounds with this story. Anyone with a kernel of journalistic curiosity would see the deeply concerning story here. Peter Schweizer can enlighten anyone that wants lots of leads as to what the Bidens have been up to for a generation. This story is not new, just more bits and pieces to back it up. Joe Biden compromised national security (unlike the same allegations about Trump) as VP to make himself rich.

Mr. M
Mr. M

I think I would have waited until the actual interview to claim that it is all shell and no bomb, there seems to be bombs after watching the Tucker Carlson interview.

SW-Florida-Fisherman
SW-Florida-Fisherman

Bottom line ....... that 45 minute interview (& the supporting documentation) that was aired last night by Fox News begs (BEGS !) an Immediate, Thorough & Unbiased investigation by BOTH the DOJ & the FBI.

As Joe Biden likes to say ....... “Here’s The Deal”.

If what was described in the interview between Tucker Carlson & Tony Bobulinski is only 25% correct ...... Joe Biden (as well as his brother & son) will be probably facing some some penalties (Criminal and / or Civil).

Frankly ..... if these assertions are fully validated ..... Watergate ‘pales’ in comparison.

Courageous reporting by the Washington Post ..... & Fox News !!

wxman40
wxman40

Biden's defense here doesn't even make sense from an ethical point of view but he isn't on the side that would get that kind of scrutiny anyway. No I don't believe Biden's claim about foreign dollars which just looks like another exercise in word games with the definitions but that doesn't exactly convict him either.

SW-Florida-Fisherman
SW-Florida-Fisherman

wxman40,

Regardless of whatever side that you believe Joe Biden, Jim Biden & Hunter Biden stand on ...... this report by the Washington Post & Fox News demands immediate DOJ & FBI scrutiny.

Need an unvarnished review ...... on the MOST recent information (e.g. texts, emails, voice recordings, etc.) presented.

If Bobulinski’s information is the “Tip of the Iceberg” ...... regardless if it is less than “10%” ..... the U.S. authorities need to AGGRESSIVELY review & scrub these allegations ...... post haste.

Hopefully, for the sake of these United States ..... this is a total ‘non-event’.

What’s the old saying ..... “Better To Be Safe Than Sorry”?

Let’s pray & hope that there is not ‘One Iota of Truth’ respective to these significant assertions.

Regardless ..... this information (former, recent & forthcoming) needs to be thoroughly investigated ..... immediately by the DOJ & FBI.

perunapitt
perunapitt

Mr. M., did you watch the interview last night with Tucker Carlson. That interview, in itself, is more substantive evidence of collusion and corruption by the Biden Crime Family than anything discovered (which was nil) in the witchhunt against Trump. As your boy Lyin' Biden likes to say, "Come On."

Herkie
Herkie

Oh I am sure David Pecker will vouch for Rudy's journalistic credentials.

Hey, you know a story has questionable roots when even the National Enquirer will not publish it.

Advancingtime
Advancingtime

On this I beg to differ with Mish, this is important considering US relations with China.


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