Greenwald Quits The Intercept Over Censorship Related to Hunter Biden

Mish

Glenn Greenwald has had enough of The Intercept, a company he co-founded.

Greenwald Criticized Biden, The Intercept Said No, Greenwald Quit

Founding Flashback

Greenwald did an amazing job on the Edward Snowden story. His initial reporting at The Intercept was top notch.

Unfortunately, The Intercept quickly morphed into a radical left Progressive and anti-US rag I found intolerable. 

What Happened Recently?

Greenwald wanted to cover more of the Hunter Biden story and The Intercept said no. We only have one side of the story so I won't comment on that aspect. 

The uncensored article, posted at his new site, is not radical left. It poked holes at Biden. 

Greenwald asked questions and demanded answers. 

We would all like to demand answers but we won't get them. 

I have yet gotten a response from Trump, the Fed, or even Paul Krugman. But the point is, I get to ask the questions.

Reporting Bias

Is there reporting bias?

Sure. It exists at the WSJ, Fox News, the Washington Post, The Intercept, and yes at the Mish website. It is impossible to be perfectly unbiased unless you are a rock. 

I write what I want. He wants to write what he wants, but can't. So he left. And there's his article above if you want to read it.

Greenwald has questions. So do I.

  1. Why is all this Hunter Biden stuff drip-fed piecemeal to the media?
  2. If this stuff is so damning then why is Rudy Giuliani,  the Trump campaign, Tucker Carlson, etc., etc holding on to the laptop while 80 million people vote?
  3. What the hell are they hiding?
  4. Is there something on the drive that vindicates Joe Biden?

Release the damn thing. And if you don't, biases will kick in from the right on presumed guilt, and from the left on presumed innocence. 

Greenwald comments on the need to see "documents in the public interest". 

On that score I agree, and that was the basis of the Edward Snowden release.

So where the hell is the hard drive? 

If you don't release it, pardon me for being skeptical about the "bombshells" allegedly on it. 

Also pardon me for questioning the context of what has been purposely released, drip by drip, by persons of dubious integrity with a known axe to grind.  

I keep returning to the same place: If there was any solid evidence of anything on that laptop, it would have been released long ago. 

So, why wasn't it? 

Mish

Comments (110)
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Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

It's Schrodinger's Laptop. It has both damning and exculpatory evidence.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
Why is all this Hunter Biden stuff drip-fed piecemeal to the media?

Knowing in advance that the mass media will minimize the impact of negative news on Biden, why drop it all in one go? Dismiss it one time, it all goes away in a matter of days. A drip does damage because of persistence.

If this stuff is so damning then why is Rudy Giuliani,  the Trump campaign, Tucker Carlson, etc., etc holding on to the laptop while 80 million people vote?

Various reasons. One reason may be that even with the laptop they expect to lose. Holding on to their copy of the 'laptop' hard-drive enables long term damage to the new administration, and may be used as blackmail. Now, there's a thought--mutually assured blackmail.

What the hell are they hiding?

It could be that you are right and the h-d is also exculpatory. It might be that the full extent of material is not realized (26K emails). Material might be encrypted. Some rumors about material already in Russian and Chinese hands could be true. Legal advisors could be a factor in holding back. Also Agency input. Finally, certain other people are named in a bad light.

Is there something on the drive that vindicates Joe Biden?

If there is, Hunter would know it.

Finally, after reading Greenwald's article, and assuming it is correct in its details, it is an indictment of the vast majority of mass media. The hard drive takes on additional meaning: to wit the entire impeachment trial is shown to be a fraud, and leading Democrats are part of a massive coverup, etc. Given the degree of bias, maximizing the strategic value of the hard drive requires inflicting the maximum damage on opponents.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

It’s like Hillary’s emails all over again isnt it. Nothing to see except the circus.

Zardoz
Zardoz

With Jared and Ivanka on the Whitehouse payroll, with their grubby little hands grabbing all they can, I couldn't care less if the Bidens are guilty as sin. If they're all criminals, I at least want some new criminals.

Sechel
Sechel

Greenwald's editors tell a different story. Says he's turned into a primadona

Webej
Webej

The laptop hardrive has been in possession of the FBI for about a year.
All this material is coming from drive images made before the FBI showed up with a warrant.
That's my understanding at least, but maybe I have to close read the story again.

Tengen
Tengen

Greenwald is a principled guy and I wish more journalists would stay true to their ethics rather than selling out to further their careers.

That said, for election purposes I doubt the Hunter story has much impact. Seemingly everyone is massively corrupt now and voting is all about which side of the red/blue divide you believe is destroying the country. People will overlook just about anything to go after the "bad guys" on the other side.

Greggg
Greggg

Why is all this Hunter Biden stuff drip-fed piecemeal to the media? Same reason Qanon is drip fed. To make it into episodes so they can make it last as long as they want, like "Days of Our Lives" or "Genitals Hospital".

Augustthegreat
Augustthegreat

If there is anything substantial in the hard-drive, they would have released it to the public by now, a few days before the election. By dripping here and there, they just want to create doubt about Hunter/Biden among weak-willed voters, which is all what they can make out of it.

Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23

Mish - I agree with your questions and I think they should be answered. After reading Greenwalds article I also think his questions need to be answered as well. I also agree with you that, unfortunately, they will not get answered. It is with the last portion of my last sentence where I think the problem lies. It is becoming very apparent that the suppression of the story by main street media and big tech is becoming a more crucial issue than possibly the story itself. Unfortunately, this will hurt both sides of the argument and sets a standard in which Im unhappy to see our country set

EGW
EGW

There is probably something to all of the allegations, there usually is with these kinds of things. As to why they are drip-feeding it to the public, maybe they realize it won't get much attention from the major news outlets and decided to rather use it to inflict long-term damage on a Biden administration in the event Trump loses. Theoretically, if there is enough drip for the next 4.5 years then it would make the 2024 election easier for Republicans to regain control.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

Do a many people care if politicians are a bit crooked? Let alone, do many people care if their politicians are a bit crooked?

I think no and no.

The majority probably want politicians to be a bit crooked. Keeps 'em on a short leash.

njbr
njbr

The "Hunter Biden email/laptop story has been out there for a year with the material being maketed by various Ukrainian peddlers. Supposedly the FBI has had it in their hands for almost that length of time.

Bidens son was drug-addled for a while, tried to use the dad's name for advancing his interest. Pardon me if you offended by my yawn, because that tale has been played out in public with Trump's kids and a lot of other connected people.

It was more fun to say "buttermails"..

njbr
njbr

By the way, maybe Greenwald should start up a website of his own,, just saying...

sometimes if you can't play nicely with others it just may mean you need some alone time

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

Complete and udder hearsay but there might be illegal pictures on the laptop.

That’s one reason. I really hope it’s not true. The drip of information is another.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

It's Baaaaaack! UPS found the missing stuff.

You can't make sh*t like this up. Unbelievable.

njbr
njbr

Hmmm, first interview of Greenwald on the Tucker Carlson FOX new show...

njbr
njbr

Greenwald adopts the Trumpista language of grand conspiracy....

Glenn Greenwald tells Tucker Carlson 'the left is in bed with a CIA set on destroying Trump'

The journalist, part of a team that won a Pulitzer for reports about government surveillance programs based on leaks by Edward Snowden, told the Fox New host that the left's 'healthy skepticism of the CIA' has 'all disappeared'.

Greenwald, who announced his resignation from the The Intercept Thursday, added: 'The reason it's disappeared is because the CIA from the very first days of the Trump administration, even before he was inaugurated, devoted themselves to sabotaging the inauguration because Donald Trump questioned a few of their pieties and that can't be done in Washington.

'So the CIA and the deep state operative became heroes of the liberal left, the people who support the democratic party. They are now in a full union with the neocons and the Bush Cheney operatives, the CIA, silicon valley and Wall Street.

'That is the union of power, along with along with mainstream media outlets, that are fully behind the democratic party which is likely to at least take over one branch of government, if not all of them, in the coming election and that's a very alarming proposition because they are authoritarian, they believe in censorship and suppression of information that exposes them in any kind of a critical light.'

Greenwald then suggested members of the CIA, DoJ, FBI and NSA now 'tell Americans what they ought to believe'. He added: 'They have infiltrated the means of communication domestically. If they do it through leaks, clandestine operations and through lies.'

Kimo
Kimo

News From the Future: Monday, Nov 2. Sources indicated that CCP funds transferred to Joe Biden were distributed to charities, anonymously.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

So....it isn't as much about this particular story as it is the way the narrative has become more important than truth in journalism. I despise Donald Trump....but I don't like thinking that most major news outlets in the country are willing to suppress a story....any story.....just to help one side......because they perceive that one particular side is worth lying about, by omission.

This is deeply disturbing to me...and should be to everybody.

I have no idea exactly how much truth is in this story....maybe some. maybe none...but if a good journalist wants to write about it, citing facts and telling the truth, editors shouldn't get in the way of that.

And it is happening....and not just with this story, but in many other areas where the story might run counter to some prevailing narrative.

Dodge Demon
Dodge Demon

What a turn of events. I still can’t figure out why John Kass moved into the City of Chicago from Western Springs.

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

@Mish

Have you seen this poll?

If his is correct(check), Biden is in serious trouble. Trump was in the single digits last election. He was also endorsed by Lil Wayne today and 50 Cent the other day.
I said it was a coin flip the other day. This would be a slam dunk for Trump if correct. The writing is appearing on the wall. 2016 repeat.

Also this.

What do you think?

Webej
Webej

So the dog ate my homework (Tucker Carlson's Biden Documents) ...
After all the lame baseless speculation, it now appears:

  1. It was a thumb drive
  2. It was a copy of the documents
  3. It has been found

All the fake allegations about fake emails seem unaware that emails that have crossed major providers' servers have DKIM authentication hashes in the headers, making it trivially easy to prove tampering or to prove authenticity.

One can add that the information is coming from many sources. The laptop HD is one. Bobulinski is another. Giuliani is another. Note that these do not intersect. Some of it is about China. Some about the Ukraine. Some about Kazakhstan and Russia. There is a plethora of sources and different threads.

Was there any doubt about Biden influence peddling? No. Many liberal outlets featured stories on it before Biden became VP candidate for a Harris presidency. How peculiar was it in the aftermath of the Maidan in Kiev to read about how the Donbass frontline was intersecting fracking operations by Burisma, where Biden's son was on the board. There are also tapes of Biden getting rid of an anti-corruption prosecuter and on the telephone to Poroschenko where the latter is assuring Biden that he is taking care of those things.

Even if there isn't court case proof evidence, anybody who is not being disingenuous has long grasped what is going on. Oh, and there are FBI investigations. It may well be that Biden didn't get any money directly, just the family finances benefited.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

I am really disappointed in Greenwald. He has lost the plot. I can't believe I read most of that screed.

Thus far, no proof has been offered by Bubolinski that Biden ever consummated his participation in any of those discussed deals. The Wall Street Journal says that it found no corporate records reflecting that a deal was finalized and that "text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture."

This really should have been the end of it. But no he wants the media to give every unverifiable claim legitimacy, in the age of misinformation, propagated primarily by, yes, Russia.

Plus as far as I can tell he fabricated a quote he attributes to the NYTimes:

"acknowledged that it had not found any Russian disinformation on the laptop."

Google that quote with quote marks around it, it only shows up in Greenwald's article.

He is better suited for writing for RT.

Lance Manly
Lance Manly

So why aren't the people that are freaked out about Hunter not freaked out 10 times more by the way Jared Kushner is using his influence to by favor with MBS. MBS had a US resident kidnapped and dismembered.

PreCambrian
PreCambrian

From what I have seen of the Hunter Biden "story", at most it would make him about one quarter as stupid as the Trump kids and does nothing to implicate Joe Biden. At worst the unsubstantiated allegations against the Bidens is one tenth of what is known that the Trumps do. Of course I would prefer that our elected officials be perfect in every way instead of saying that one side is less bad than the other. In this case it is known what the Trumps do even though they use the power of the entire US government to prevent any investigations while the entire power of the US government is used to find any dirt on the Bidens. The reason, of course, that there have been no charges against the Bidens is that once charges are brought then they would have full access to the "evidence" against them and could easily refute the charges.

njbr
njbr

TUCKER CARLSON GIVES UP ON BIDEN STORY

....Fox News host Tucker Carlson presented a bizarre new development on Thursday night in the mysterious case of his allegedly “damaging” documents on Democratic candidate Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, that Carlson previously claimed had disappeared in the mail when a producer sent them from New York to Carlson in Los Angeles.

Carlson opened the story with a claim that the producer who shipped the lost documents via UPS had put them on a flash drive, which was allegedly missing from the package when it arrived in L.A. However, Carlson’s team had made a copy of the documents before they were sent “because we’re careful,” the Fox News host said.

According to Carlson, UPS said an employee had found the flash drive on Monday night.

Then the Fox host hinted at a conspiracy theory surrounding the incident.

“How did our flash drive get separated from the package that we sent it in?” Carlson asked. “That seems like something worth knowing. The envelope was securely sealed, and we know that. UPS does not dispute that. Was a package torn open accidentally by a machine? That seems unlikely and UPS says that almost never happens […] We got our flash drive back today and that’s great, but what we’d really like are some answers.”

However, Carlson declined to say what was actually on the flash drive, and he also claimed to have “a lot of documents about Hunter Biden’s personal life” that he would not share, supposedly out of concern for Biden, whom Carlson called “a fallen man at this point.”

“Probably too strong to say we feel sorry for Hunter Biden, but the point is pounding on a man, jumping on, and piling on when he’s already down is something we don’t want to be involved in,” said Carlson, who has been relentlessly attacking Biden for weeks, as have his colleagues at Fox.

Carlson’s sudden about-face came not long after NBC News published a report revealing that an intel document supposedly detailing Biden’s corrupt business dealings in China, which had spread among conservative circles online, was created by a fake persona at a fake intelligence firm.

Frank10
Frank10

"....Is there reporting bias?

Sure. It exists at the WSJ, Fox News, the Washington Post, The Intercept, and yes at the Mish website. It is impossible to be perfectly unbiased unless you are a rock."

Expressing a biassed point of view in a newspaper article, commentary, editorial or blog is perfectly fine. Calling that reporting is not. Doing so does a great disservice to all those brave true reporters and journalists who sometimes had to put their lives in harms ways in order to bring unfettered facts to the general public's attention.

kiers
kiers

I'll tell you something else (two things that point out what BS our democracy is b/c it doesn't stand to reason) :

  1. Isn't it funny Trump started laser-targeting Hunter and Joe Biden for criticism LONG before Joe was anointed by DNC high command winner of the primary? [the system is so rigged, an event can be prospectively made fun of even nonetheless it still happens].

  2. Why does an incumbent president who commands "such an electoral majority" as Trump, have to resort to a 4-year long presidency-as-campaign, with military grade agent-provocateur gas-light psy-op tactics, to boot, in order to even conceive of winning? And then why does the DNC have to cut short a primary and hurriedly choose a candidate who then starts looking and acting most like Trump himself complete with character flaws and all, in order to be viable as an alternative?

What kind of crockery is going on here?


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