Despite Massive Unemployment, Michigan Disagrees With Trump

Mish

A recent poll compares Trump to Governor Gretchen Whitmer on Covid-19 handling. It's not even close.

Inquiring minds are digging into the Michigan Statewide COVID-19 Poll for economic and political impacts. 

President Trump COVID-19 Approval at 44%

  • Republicans approve of his handling by a margin of 88%-9%.
  • Democrats disapprove of his handling by a margin of 6%-86%.
  • Independent voters disapprove of his handling by a margin of 40%-52%.
  • Men approve of his handling 49%-46%.
  • But women disapprove of his handling by a margin of 39%-54%.

Governor Whitmer COVID-19 Approval at 57%

  • Democrats approve of her handling by a margin of 89%-8%.
  • Republicans disapprove of her handling by a margin of 22%-70%.
  • But Independent voters approve of her handing by a margin of 56%-35%.
  • Men approve of her handling 49%-42%.
  • Women strongly approve of her handling by a margin of 64%-32%.

This poll is interesting in light of Trump Tweets encouraging uprisings. 

Liberate Michigan

Liberate Minnesota

Liberate Virginia

I discussed the above Tweets in Huge Battle Over Covid-19 Tests and Trump's Liberation Tweets.

Once again Trump plays to his base with such tactics. But his base is going nowhere.

Nearly everyone except those who would always vote for Trump anyway is at least somewhat uncomfortable with such divisive tactics.  

All Trump had to do to win in 2020 was act like a President instead of a partisan clown.  

He cannot do it because he thrives on the adulation he gets from rabid supporters who will always vote for him anyway. 

This message comes from someone who voted for Trump in 2016.  

Neither the extreme Left who believes the Democrats need a Progressive candidate to win, nor the Ever-Trump Right, understands what I just said. 

The swing voters, independents, and anti-Hillary voters are why Trump won in 2016 and they are why Trump will lose in 2020, assuming Biden makes a sensible choice for VP that independents can back.

35% Face Major Loss in Michigan Poll

The results of the poll are all the more interesting because the same poll shows 35% Face Major Loss in Michigan Poll

Highlights

  • 29% of respondents are furloughed, laid off, or unable to work.
  • 27.3% of respondents that were working prior to the outbreak have been forced to file for unemployment.
  • 42.6% of respondents that were working prior to the outbreak, are now furloughed, laid off, or unable to work.
  • 69% of furloughed or laid-off workers face catastrophic to major financial impact.
  • 28% of respondents are worried about putting food on the table.
  • The majority of respondents, 50%, believe Michigan is already in a recession.

I calculate Michigan's unemployment rate close to 30% as discussed in the above link. 

Yet, despite the layoffs, furloughs, and Trump mischief, Michigan voters prefer the Governor over Trump, and dramatically so. 

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Mish

Comments (73)
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SpeedyGeezer
SpeedyGeezer

Bust a deal, face the wheel!

davebarnes
davebarnes

People are increasingly [at the margin] coming to see The Dumpster® as an incoherent, inarticulate, incompetent, incontinent, morbidly obese, narcissistic sociopath. It will only take 6000 voters changing to flip Michigan back to blue.

Augustthegreat
Augustthegreat

LIBERATE AMERICA from the tyranny of tRump!

awc13
awc13

well, that is why we have states. apparently the citizens of Michigan approve of not being able to buy seeds for their gardens. good for them, i guess.

Zardoz
Zardoz

If he keeps dog whistling, one of those chubby rifle toters is gonna pop off and kill somebody.

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

I find this one sided.

Trump tweeted that he supported protesters. I support protesting on anything. I may not support the message but I support the right.

Do states have the authority to lock people in there homes? Does the state own the public areas?

Could they do it forever? Might be a conversation worth having.

If the orange man should have said something or not seems pointless at this juncture.

WildBull
WildBull

In a month, Michiganders and geese may feel quit a bit different. Oil, entertainment and retail are just the beginning. This will work its way back the supply chain and stop literally everything but taxes and debt payments.

Tengen
Tengen

This 2020 election year is shaping up to be interesting. In this corner, we have senile, hair sniffing weirdo Joe Biden. In the other corner, the defending champion, the bigliest, most tremendous carnival barker ever, Donald Trump.

If Americans still can't figure out how pointless the red/blue game has become, they richly deserve everything that's coming to them.

JohnB99
JohnB99

I'm all for protesters having every right to do this. But I have some thoughts that don't ever seem to come up.

Let's say we open more business up. The virus continues spreading. If the business does not provide PPE, doesn't that open up litigation and insurance issues in the event their employees start dying?

I know Smithfield and Tyson are looking at this issue pending and Carnival will be owned by the class-action lawyers when that's finished.

Seems like a big risk to take before there's a supply of "insurance approved" PPE readily available.

Also, I like the Chinese reopening model. Go 50% production first, half the staff to increase distancing, then after 3 weeks of success bump it up to 75%. Then 3 more weeks up to 100% or whatever that means now.

Seems a better approach vs. open all of whatever.

Carl_R
Carl_R

As I see the slowing infection rates everywhere, yet exploding infection rates in meat packing plants, it is becoming increasingly clear that this it going to be just like every other flu, albeit with more casualties. The normal flu cycle is for a strain of virus to start up in January-February, and spread some in March-April, then stop for the summer, before exploding in the fall. It is during November to March that the regular flu does the bulk of it's killing.

Covid19 is now widespread everywhere. It is slowing everywhere, except in the cold, dry climates inside meat packing plants. Within a month, the spread rate should be minimal. Unfortunately, when cold weather returns, the experience in the meat packing plants tells us what will happen. For the last 250 years, it's always the second wave that is the worst. Expect this to peak in November-March. It should be an interesting backdrop for the election, and I'm sure that how bad it is on election day will affect the popularity of the various candidate, and I don't know how bad that will be.

The Hood
The Hood

I think you remain too hard on Trump, Mish. The Republican Party would look like the Democrats without him and this country would have gone down the tubes long ago. As far as polls go the American people don't buy into them anymore because statistics lie and liars use statistics. What gets clearer every day is the Kung Flu is not the problem, the rapidly deteriorating monetary policy of our government and the FED is what is; and they all keep trying to lay it at the feet of President Trump. We're deep into Strauss and Howe's 4th Turning and it's not a perfect world, in fact, ours is a world in Revolution. They key is to restore our Constitution and separation of powers, both of which have been folded, spindled and mutilated by a centralization of political power, which allows the parasitic very wealthy to drain 90% of America. America has to change. America is going to change. The question that remains is which America will we change into. The same one that brought us all to the abyss, or are we going to show the courage, fortitude and leadership that takes us back to the separation of powers ensconced in our Constitution.
You have a column that people read. It is especially incumbent upon you to take the long view and support the road back to our Constitution, else I'm afraid there won't be much left of America or this world.
We live in this critical of a time and we all have to ask ourselves if we are going to continue to be part of the problem, or start living up to the solution.
It will take courage, fortitude and leadership.

Sechel
Sechel

What makes re-opening so hard is the how partisan the impact of the pandemic has been so far.It's hit urban democratic areas and states far more than rural republican states. so of course rural areas don't see a stake in it for them in maintaining mitigation measures. Rural areas just see the economic cost. This is the case up to now, but there is information that the rural areas are now seeing a rise in infections.
Seems we're setting ourselves up for a perfect storm with a governor in Georgia opening up massage parlors, movie theaters and bowling alleys, the last venues one might think a health care official would recommend.

michiganmoon
michiganmoon

I am from Michigan and I don't see how people can agree with either of them. Trump for obvious reasons that have been pointed out on this site over and over. Slow start, blames others, insults people, makes jokes about doing models during an important somber moment discussing deaths, etc..

Whitmer took 3 weeks to make up her mind what teachers can do, after issuing contradictory orders in the same day, and her final executive order to the schools still needed lawyers to interpret. She blatantly lied about what Trump said. Her shelter in place laws are a bit silly.

lasttwo
lasttwo

TomKathQld
TomKathQld

I believe Mish may be right about Trump losing 2020, and it will be followed fairly immediately by all out WAR.

Realist
Realist

The US is clearly struggling to deal with this virus. You are not alone. Like many other countries you are beginning to flatten the curve in terms of daily infections and deaths. This success was the result of the vast majority Americans social distancing, self-isolating, and following suggestions from their governments. The US did so much better than what the models expected (the models only expected 50% compliance). It would be a shame to blow all that hard work now.

As states begin to relax restrictions they will need a lot of testing, tracing, and cooperation from citizens, to prevent it from exploding again.

When autumn arrives, it is expected that a second wave of this virus will come with it. Also, it will be flu season at the same time. This will put another big strain on hospitals. This is far from over. It is not time to lower your guard. Open if you must, but make sure you do it wisely, otherwise you will have to repeat this dance later this year.

Tucky
Tucky

Our communist governor, Gretchen, is a terrible governor. Screw the lying poll, what about the +300,000 on-line votes to impeach her? Trump is right, the old bag is wrong.

mpowerOR
mpowerOR

Polls?

We'll be citing MSNBC & America's Voice here soon...

stillCJ
stillCJ

Editor

I'm wondering if that poll was taken from mostly people in Detroit? I know many people in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and every one of them thinks their governor must be nuts.

Overall
Overall

Mish has always advocated sending our jobs overseas! Thank you!! You are part of the problem. I don't trust any mainstream media CNN MSNBC , what I see is people angry at that democrat named half whit. Get real mish!

Jdog1
Jdog1

The entire Democratic party has been bought lock, stock, and barrel, by the Chinese.
They need to change the name of the party to the Chinese Democratic Party....