Add Toomey to the List of Republicans Willing to Impeach Trump

Mish

Senator Pat Toomey (R) Pennsylvania says Trump committed impeachable offenses. That makes four Republican Senators.

Pat Toomey on Impeachment

Republican Senators Willing to Take a Stand

  1. Senator Pat Toomey (R., PA) cites impeachable offenses.
  2. Senator Ben Sasse (R., NE.) said Trump violated his oath of office.
  3. Senator Lisa Murkowski (R., AK) became the first Republican senator to call for Mr. Trump to resign.
  4. Senator Mitt Romney (R., UT) publicly blasted Trump.

"I believe the president has disregarded his oath of office," Sasse said. "He swore an oath to the American people to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. He acted against that."

Romney has not yet stated an opinion on impeachment but I am quite sure he would do it. Romney’s speech calling out GOP was the culmination of years of warning about Trump

Recall that Romney was the only Republican to vote for Trump’s impeachment last year. It is reasonable to assume he would again.

Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign

The WSJ says Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign.

[Trump's actions were] ... an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election. It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr. Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.

We know an act of grace by Mr. Trump isn’t likely. In any case this week has probably finished him as a serious political figure. He has cost Republicans the House, the White House, and now the Senate. Worse, he has betrayed his loyal supporters by lying to them about the election and the ability of Congress and Mr. Pence to overturn it. He has refused to accept the basic bargain of democracy, which is to accept the result, win or lose.

There's still more. What about Georgia?

White House Forced Georgia U.S. Attorney to Resign

Please note White House Forced Georgia U.S. Attorney to Resign

A senior Justice Department official, at the behest of the White House, called Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney Byung J. Pak and told him he needed to step down because he wasn’t pursuing vote-fraud allegations to Mr. Trump’s satisfaction, the people said.

Mr. Pak resigned abruptly on Monday—the day before the runoffs—saying in an early morning email to colleagues that his departure was due to “unforeseen circumstances.” 

The pressure on Mr. Pak was part of Mr. Trump’s weekslong push to try to alter presidential election results favoring President-elect Joe Biden, which included his win in Georgia. Mr. Trump this week, following the U.S. Capitol riot, said he would leave office on Jan. 20 when Mr. Biden is inaugurated.

Mr. Pak’s resignation came one day after the public release of the audio of a Jan. 2 call in which Mr. Trump had urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the November election results. Mr. Trump told Mr. Raffensperger in the roughly hourlong call that the Georgia Republican could face legal action and said he should find nearly 12,000 votes of five million cast to reverse Mr. Biden’s victory in the state.

Mr. Raffensperger rejected pressure to further investigate an election, telling the president, “The challenge that you have is that the data you have is wrong.”

The president also complained on the call that Mr. Pak was a “never Trumper.”

What Have We Here?

  • Election tampering
  • Judicial tampering 
  • Obstruction of justice

Georgia officials are investigating whether Trump broke Georgia election laws. 

It's clear he did. 

Add those to grounds for impeachment. 

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will likely hold up a vote for the sole purpose of not having Republicans own up on record whether they still support Trump. 

Trump is guilty and should be removed. 

Trump is Toxic

Removal from office by impeachment is somewhat moot. Trump is Now Toxic, The Value of the "Trump Brand" is Negative.

Trump's legacy is sealed. He will be viewed as the anarchist holding the match.

All that's left for Trump is a pile of lawsuits, some of which might put him in prison.

Mish

Comments (175)
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PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

At the point, the GOP is fractured. There are:

  1. never trumpers
  2. once trumpers but no more.
  3. trumpikazees.

Not sure how you put humpty dumpty back together again.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

The Republicans could easily force Trump to resign if they were so inclined. Either threaten to impeach him or worst case invoke the 25th amendment. Shameful. Time to switch my party affiliation.

JJ Johnson
JJ Johnson

The impeachment is going to occur either way. Nobody in DC wants him to hold federal office ever again.

He'll lose $200k/yr pension, $1M/yr travel expense and secret service protection.

Will not have monuments or airports named after him.

It cements the legacy.

Sechel
Sechel

Impeachment is certainly justified but it won't get Trump removed before his term ends. Interestingly Romney is not on board. My position is it should not be done unless they can first secure the votes in the Senate otherwise Trump will call it acquittal. A censure vote by both houses might be more practical.

I definitely believe Trump committed an impeachable offense but I'm weighing the reality of getting it done

Sechel
Sechel

Pat Toomey will not be in the Senate come January 21. Senate is not in session. This goes to Schumer

Sechel
Sechel

good interview. Members of the Senate and House that supported Trump's coup d'etat are part of the golpistas

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

Breaking news: Susan Collins and Rand Paul speak out in favor of impeachment.

Breaking Breaking News: Susan Collins and Rand Paul speak out against impeachment.

One-armed Economist
One-armed Economist

When is enough, enough? He needs to not only resign he needs jail time.

That he would STILL seek Pak's resignation THE DAY AFTER THE Georgia vote tampering fiasco is shocking, and shows he's an habitual criminal.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

"Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will likely hold up a vote for the sole purpose of not having Republicans own up on record whether they still support Trump."

Only on McConnell's watch. The impeachment and trial will continue under Schumer. The only way a senator can avoid being on the record is abstention (which is still on the record) or resignation (which is still on the record).

truthseeker
truthseeker

I know you don’t like my comments Mish. It’s your blog. As I’ve said before when truth is silenced, those who silence truth will be deleted.

truthseeker
truthseeker

Once before I begged you to post my comments and you did. So here I am again pleading with you to post my remarks. I certainly agree with everybody that Trump has crossed the line, and I really hope you don’t cross the line of free speech with me as we’ve been together maybe longer than anyone else at this point. You’ve always been the person I could always depend on.......

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Pence still considering 25th amendment.

JoeJohnson
JoeJohnson

I remember in 2008 Toomey ran as a "conservative", shameful traitor. No wonder he's not running for reelection, he knows he would be primaried from the right. I predict the GOP will split into a nominal conservative party like the French Republicans, while the Trump wing will be similar to the French National Front/Rally. AOC is still just a nuisance for Democrats but who knows if she starts challenging Biden and Pelosi.

Realist
Realist

Worst President in US history. And he isn’t done yet. He will continue to damage your country, for as long as he lives. He has appealed to every bigot, racist, white supremacist, gun toting nut job in your country. Many of them proudly support him on this blog.

It was clear that he would not be able to overturn the election, and that a coup attempt was coming. Of course, it was doomed to fail as well.

Still, Trump’s brand may be tarnished, but he is not done. In his mind, he is still the greatest person who ever walked the earth and he expects to be able to win the presidency again.

And there are plenty of right wing media sources who will continue to give him a platform to keep spreading lies to his kool-aid drinking cult members.

I do not expect the Republicans to allow him to be impeached. They have seen what happens when you don’t kiss Trump’s ass. You get accosted by his cult in public places like Mitt Romney and Lyndsey Graham. Or they threaten to kill you, like those who were screaming for Mike Pence to be hung.

It is possible that some Republicans will surprise me and actually stand up for their country, and allow Trump’s impeachment. But I’m not expecting it, as they are cowards. They will sell out their country instead of standing up for it.

Bohm-Bawerk
Bohm-Bawerk

For those of us who are anarcho-captitalists, Mish, please don't confuse anarchy with chaos. It is a disgrace to the word anarchy to associate that form of government with Trump.

Johnson1
Johnson1

Romney is part capitalisms problems and growing inequality. His money gets hi elected though. His Bain capital destroys middle class lives. A few get rich and many become poorer.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

I say let the Trumpites try to primary everyone in the GOP. It didnt work out too well for them in the Senate and if the idea is based on overthrowing the government then what are they for ? Anarchy isnt a winning platform.

Jackula
Jackula

Meanwhile here in LA we are up to 4 hospitals rationing care and counting with the UK variant of Covid coming and probably the S African one not far behind. I just want to see the new admin get cracking on doing a lot better job dealing with Covid. Trump I will ignore going forward. Sad to see a man who was on top the world screw things up so badly in the last 9 months.

carmensandiegolives
carmensandiegolives

My goodness have I come to understand the prescience and social survival skills of the host of this site as he re-positioned his political affiliations and image at the start of 2020. I do confess that the birthing of a permanent progressive one-party State in America and the sudden movement to prevent communication which is not in alignment with it was something which completely blindsided me.

Of course that "party" is not really a party in the traditional sense of the word since it is a novel admixture or amalgam of the Democratic Party Of America and the elites of the banking and investment banking industry with the near entirety of the entertainment industry, the media, the "press," and the social media. This is the ruling class and the clerisy which orbits and serves it.

A force, a power like that is simply irresistible and most unwise to challenge in any way which comes to its attention such that it perceives a risk or a danger to its primary goal.

But what, you ask, it the primary goal of this new State, why did it form, why does it no longer permit opposition or even criticism? It's a good question, and the proper answer, as best I can ascertain, is:

Globalism,

an organizational construct against which the beneficiaries thereof will no longer tolerate any form of effective resistance, even if the resistance is by means of word only.

The victims of globalism are best understood as the subjugated, the beneficiaries thereof the subjugators. That's the American divide as the American story continues to write itself in the days, weeks, month and years ahead.

But Sir, you now ask, isn't this a thread concerning Donald J. Trump and his incessant and gratuitous foolish, meaningless, reckless and finally dangerous prattle? Yes it is, and here's the connection:

DJT finally delivered the spark which the new Party was awaiting to have the cover to unveil its arrival, its breathtaking power and its obvious determination remain at the pinnacle, which it inevitable will do.

Again, Mr. Shedlock, your adjustments at the onset of 2020, which I failed to understand and appreciate at the time but certainly do today, reflect a level of prescience and skill which is usually only found among the survivors of great upheavals.

I salute you, I genuinely do.

Thank you.

carmensandiegolives
carmensandiegolives

Commenters below have been talking about the fate of the Republican Party Of America.

It's finished.

Here's why:

The bulk of the economic, entertainment, media and social media personages have, in effect, fused with the Democratic Party Of America in order to lock in globalism as the supreme operational construct and design in future American polity. They and those who orbit them are not leaving, not now, not soon, not in my lifetime. Why should they, they are the beneficiaries. The ethnics, who have always been bonded to the Democrats, aren't leaving either.

What's left?

This:

Whiteness,

if you will permit me the usage.

Now the bulk of the whites, who perceived themselves as Republicans but now suddenly perceive themselves as a defeated and disfavored underclass, will simple withdraw into an apolitical orientation of a sort, not an opposition, not a force to be reckoned with (or even considered as existing by the elites in the formulation of policy,) not really anything at all in the political calculus.

So, what's left for the Republican Party going forward in the years ahead?

Well, a minute stub constituency within the electorate, 15%-20%, if that, is what is left.

As I posited above, the Republican Party Of America is finished, and for this sad state of affairs one and only one foolish little "man" is almost solely responsible. We all know exactly who that is, now don't we.

Imagine how different the world would be on Sunday, January 10, 2021 if on December 15 that man had decided to treat the family to a month-long (and much deserved) vacation and allow the two Vice Presidents, one current and one former, work out the boring final details.

ROGO1
ROGO1

“Organized power is realized power”- LaTosha Brown
Black genius at work!..
A new narrative to “mend not bend” our Constitution is needed,
Impeachment is a great start to ending white privilege
And mark the beginning of the mending process!..

Sechel
Sechel

Helpful reminder

AshH
AshH

Any member of Congress that doesn't support impeachment should be removed from office under the 14th amendment Section 3:

No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Realist
Realist

I have been meaning to write these few paragraphs (though I could write a book) about what is wrong with America. Now, before you scream at me for presuming to know what is wrong with America (being a foreigner who doesn’t live there), this could apply to any country. I am simply writing it for the American audience on this blog.

Of course, there are many problems in America (as in all countries). For brevity, my focus today will be on just one of those problems, as it seems so pertinent during these tumultuous times.

A reader recently said they were an Anarcho-Capitalist. Mish, likes to say he is a Libertarian. Others identify as Democrats, Republicans, Socialists, Capitalists, Trumpists, etc etc etc.

And that, in a nutshell, is the problem I am talking about.

When you proudly identify yourself with a particular group, you are boxing yourself in, and in some cases, you are beginning to consume the kool-aid. Most don’t even realize it at the time, as it often happens slowly, insidiously, over time. After a while, you start to believe that your “group’ has all the answers to all the problems. Worse, you start to believe that the other groups do not. You are right. They are wrong. This is America today. Hopelessly divided into groups that cannot and will not work with each other.

The result of so much group kool-aid, is not just an inability to work together for the good of all. It becomes an inability to think for yourself. An inability to even see reality. Everything becomes partisan. It becomes us vs them. Then it turns mean spirited. Then it turns angry. Then it turns violent.

Think Hatfields and McCoys. Or Christians and Muslims (the crusades). Protestants and Catholics (Northern Ireland). And so on.

It is not just Democrats and Republicans. You can add dozens of other “groups” to the list. Many were at the insurrection the other day. Three Percenters, Proud Boys, Kekistans, Confederates, Oath Keepers, Camp Auschwitz, MAGAs, etc.

And like many groups, once you are in, it isn’t easy to leave. You get threatened by your own if you step out of line: Mitt Romney, Lyndsey Graham, Mike Pence. Instead of living in fear of the other groups, you start to live in fear of your own group.

You see that every day with Trump. If you aren’t for him, you must be against him. And you suffer the consequences.

It is why the Republicans will not impeach Trump. They are so afraid of their own cult members, they will do nothing.

It is why I always try to be “apolitical”. I do not want to be a part of any of these “groups”. I want to remain open minded. I want to be able to see reality. I don’t want to hate the other groups or to live in fear of my own group.

This is America today. Too many cults. Too much hate. Too much fear.

That is why Trump will not be successfully impeached. Although I am open to being surprised.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

If one can be arrested for yelling fire in a crowded movie theatre how can Trump’s incitement of a crowd to march on the Capitol building thereby indirectly causing the deaths of 5 individuals not be at least an impeachable offense and possibly a chargeable offense?

ohno
ohno

This country is 50/50. I personally am an independent and didn't vote for either one of them. I will say I live rural and most people here are gritting their teeth so hard at a Biden win that they have no teeth left. If the left thinks they are going to control these people and tell them what to do good luck with that. The US isn't one size fits all and for the dems to think(as some of them have already said) are going to put everyone under one umbrella it's going to get real nasty, real quick. If they start doing crap like major gun bans I would suggest stay out of the way most of these people out here are violent when it comes to that subject and to be truthful......I grew up around it and have the same feelings on that particular subject. No one out here is committing crimes but that's likely to change. It's not a joke, people out here are foaming at the mouth.

Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog

Mitch McConnell's memo to the GOP senators says that under Senate rules it will require unanimous consent of "all 100" Senators to take up an impeachment trial before the 20th. The Senate had already agreed unanimously to pro-forma sessions thru the 19th on Jan 6th.

njbr
njbr

Has anyone noticed the diconnect/irony between the 230 protection removal and the Trump faction moaning about censorship by being dropped from twitter?

They, in the end, want twitter to take the heat for their BS

Mish
Mish

Editor

"After all these years he could at least post my comments and tell me what he disagreed with and why."

I have no idea what Truthseeker is even talking about. I just got up, was editing images all night and if anything was removed a spam filter got it.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

I have to admit I am astonished at the cultural divergence between the red and blue states in this country. Given the state of the two party system in this country it is difficult to see things improving any time soon. Maybe it is time for a group of the “left coast” states and a group of the “right coast” states to separately secede from the union.

Sechel
Sechel

The more i think about this the more i conclude the true reason behind republican reticence on supporting impeachment is fear about going on record. if sedition isn't impeachable then nothing is. In deciding not to impeach Aaron Burr over killing Hamilton the rationale was this wasn't a crime against the state. But in Trump's case that's clearly the case.


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