Waste of Time to Test Says Mexico as 50% Test Positive

Mish

Mexico's health minister says testing is a waste of time as 50% of Covid-19 tests are positive.

Bury Head in Sand Approach 

Mexico shuns Covid-19 testing even though Half of All Covid Tests Are Positive.

The sky-high results are easy to explain -- though not so easy to fix. The Latin American nation has stubbornly shunned wide-scale testing and instead runs exams only on the sickest of patients. Deputy Health Minister Hugo Lopez Gatell in late May said anything more would be “a waste of time, effort and resources.”

Throughout the pandemic, Mexico and parts of Latin America have reported positivity rates that dwarf anything seen from China to the U.S., including new trouble spots like Arizona and Texas. With half of all tests coming back positive, Mexico ties only Bolivia for title of the world’s highest rate. In Argentina and Chile, almost 3 out of every 10 exams lead to a Covid-19 diagnosis. And in Brazil, where 1.4 million people have been infected, no one knows for sure because the government doesn’t release that data.

Hey, Why Bother?

Hey, Why Bother

Mexico vs Russia vs Germany Population

  • Population of Mexico: 126.2 Million
  • Population of Russia: 144.5 Million
  • Population of Germany: 82.8 Million

Mexico vs Russia vs Germany Tests 

  • Mexico: 581,580 Tests 
  • Russia: 19,852, 167 Tests
  • Germany: 5,873,563 Tests

Question of the Day

  • Q: What do these numbers suggest?
  • A: Mexico is broke. It cannot afford wide-scale tests nor can it afford to shut down the economy.

That is why Mexico sticks its head in the sand and pretends "testing is a waste of time, effort and resources.”

Mexico is in a terrible no-win situation.  

Meanwhile, back in the US, The Recovery Will Have Many Shapes, Not One.

Also note that The Fed Promotes a Quickening that Takes Many Years.

Mish

Comments (111)
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tokidoki
tokidoki

When Mexico makes a move to the Top 10, you'll realize that 4 of the countries there are in the American continent.

Michael Oxlong
Michael Oxlong

maybe they will be the first to achieve herd immunity. time will tell.

Axiom7
Axiom7

Yes all the data points to the risk from C19 being far less than the extreme measures taken to flatten the curve.

  1. High positive tests vs decrease in deaths.
  2. 95% correlation of death to old age. The people dying are those with the shortest life expectancy.
  3. Huge uptick in positive tests as younger people are given access to tests. So "cases" up deaths down.
  4. Random testing shows that 25-30% of the population already have antibodies.
  5. Research shows that asymptomatic spread is not a risk (although only a couple of studies).

Of course I could be wrong. Hopefully I'm not. But from an odds/risk perspective things are looking good.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

Texas gov finally issues a mask order. I think thats too little too late. Texas is a cv19 mess now. The county judge in harris county wanted to fine people $1000 for not wearing mask to get compliance. Texas idiot gov thought he knew better and overrode the order and now it is a disaster and He is issuing the order 30 days too late. The GOP are officially a group of morons. I am voting them all out.

RSM
RSM

The obsession with testing is idiotic.

Reasons to test:

  1. containment with contact tracing - no longer possible in Mexico and many other places.
  2. to quarantine and lower R0 - well if they’re driving to a clinic for a test, why not instead just run a public health campaign to tell people to stay home for X days after symptoms? How does a test change that? Also, this thing is everywhere now. We’re not getting the genie back in the bottle by lowering the R0. The only thing we can do is keep hospitals from being over capacity. That’s a LOCAL issue, and needs action plans locally.
  3. Treatment - why not just give everyone short of breath a steroid shot and antibiotic like they’re doing in Texas? A positive test wouldn’t change this approach.

Testing informs public health officials how the outbreak is moving through the community. This doesn’t require millions of tests, but sample data to extrapolate. They can run tests on people who present with critical symptoms, and others at random when they come for non-Covid treatment. Any decent public health statistician can work with that. The obsession with testing everyone is stupid and wasteful.

numike
numike

Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected WOOHOO!!

Realist
Realist

Testing and tracing is a tried and true strategy that works great when implemented properly in areas where an infection is in its early stages. This strategy has been implemented very successfully by many Asian countries, who have managed to keep the spread of the virus to very low levels.

In addition, if you also implement several other protocols: mask wearing, social distancing , no large gatherings, rigorous cleaning and sanitizing, then it is highly likely that you will contain the virus and not destroy your economy.

However, if you let the virus spread out-of-control, like in some countries, then it becomes impossible to test and trace.

Then you have to lock down parts of your economy in order to contain the spread.

Since countries like Brazil, Mexico and the US have done such a poor job of containing the virus, tracing becomes too difficult. However, testing is still important, to be able to identify the illness and provide proper treatments.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

Mexico is a failed state in the throes of a decades-long narco civil war.

If it weren't so sad, it would be funny if the cartels provided testing. They are the de facto state, after all.

Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear

There goes Trump's pretense of protecting Mexico from COVID in Texas by building a wall between the US and Mexico.

awc13
awc13

seems like it is a waste of time. if you aren't sick enough to need hospitalization what good does testing do? sure, it is nice to know but would your home treatment be any different than the regular flu?

gregggg
gregggg

Study pending peer review. 1st half hour is interview.

Anda
Anda

You could test everyone, everyday, for a year, and isolate all those infected, and afterwards the virus would still start circulating again.

The guy in the black suit runs Spain

And his main advisor is below.

I would say that Mexico is part Spanish culture, except even many Spanish detest this kind.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

Why are all these southern and mid west states backtracking on opening up businesses and now requiring face masks in public? Where is the outrage and the demonstrators screaming for an easing up of COVID restrictions? Why would a silly thing like record numbers of daily infections suddenly cause anyone to change their viewpoint? Get back to work everyone. It is no worse than the flu. Bunch of wimps.

Jojo
Jojo

Most People With Coronavirus Won’t Spread It. Why Do a Few Infect Many?
Growing evidence shows most infected people aren’t spreading the virus. But whether you become a superspreader probably depends more on circumstance than biology.
By Carl Zimmer
June 30, 2020

Following a birthday party in Texas on May 30, one man reportedly infected 17 members of his family with the coronavirus.

Reading reports like these, you might think of the virus as a wildfire, instantly setting off epidemics wherever it goes. But other reports tell another story altogether.

WildBull
WildBull

Only two end games, suspension of rights forever or herd immunity. Name your poison. I, for one would rather take my chances with Covid-19 than live forever under the present circumstances.

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

Mexico may have a point.

I find today's US infection rate statistics almost unintelligible. Are these new positive cases all verified with PCR tests, antibody tests, or some combination of different tests? Are the tests all highly sensitive and specific or are some not very good? How many of the people being tested have symptoms and how many of them do not have symptoms at the time they are tested? How many separate tests are repeat tests being run on the same individual who keeps getting tested as a way of continually screening himself or herself?

Meanwhile, since it is no longer possible in the US to focus containment efforts on only infected individuals, what good are these tests except to screen people who will be in contact with high risk individuals or as a diagnostic tool to confirm a course of medical treatment for those who are sick?

njbr
njbr

Herd immunity in Mexico?

Population 126 million.

Reported cases 239 thousand.

If they are finding only 1 in 10, that's 2.4 million cases. 1 in 20--4.8 million.

100 million required for herd immunity.

No herd immunity in sight in Mexico.

Jackula
Jackula

A lot of discussion about herd immunity, scientists are not even certain immunity will even last for more than a few months with covid.

Fl0yd
Fl0yd

Black lives matter. Indeed.
All lives are not to be considered at this time. Or, one is a accused and canceled.

aprnext
aprnext

Your ans, Mish is 110% correct. Man, sometimes you kill it....oops, sorry for the metaphor. Oh, by the way, its a waste of time here also; for other reasons

Patter.Alyssa
Patter.Alyssa

Nice to read here latest covid updates of different countries. I hope all are safe and recover soon.
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