The Healing of America is an Enormous Undertaking

Mish

President Trump is about the become the only president to be twice impeached. This creates many obstacles for Biden.

Biden's Dilemma 

Biden is torn between a healing effort to appease Trump supporters and passing his agenda. 

A focus on his agenda would not please Democrats and even some Republicans who want Trump not just out of office but with a guarantee he can never run again.

Here are the Articles of Impeachment.

 Live Updates

The NYT has Impeachment Live Updates and comments on the events.

House Democrats on Monday introduced an article of impeachment against President Trump for inciting a mob that attacked the Capitol last week, vowing to press the charge as Republicans blocked a separate move to formally call on Vice President Mike Pence to strip him of power under the 25th Amendment.

“The president’s threat to America is urgent, and so too will be our action,” Ms. Pelosi said on Monday.

As expected, Republicans objected to a resolution calling on Mr. Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment, meaning that the House would have to call a full vote on the measure, most likely on Tuesday. Democratic leaders were confident it would pass, and pressured Republican lawmakers to vote with them to beseech the vice president, who is said to be opposed to using the powers outlined in the Constitution, to do so.

It was a remarkable threat. If Mr. Pence does not intervene “within 24 hours” after passage and the president does not resign, House leaders said they would move on Wednesday to consider the impeachment resolution on the floor, just a week after the attack. Already more than 210 Democrats have signed onto the leading charge, just shy of a majority of the House. Several Republicans were said to be considering voting to impeach for the first time, though party leaders were opposed.

Last minute changes were made late Sunday to include a reference to the 14th Amendment, the post-Civil War era addition to the Constitution that prohibits anyone who “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the United States from holding future office. Lawmakers also decided to cite specific language from Mr. Trump’s speech last Wednesday, inciting the crowd, quoting him saying: “If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

Biden Asks Congress to Split Time

Asked about the second impeachment proceeding beginning against Mr. Trump in Congress, Mr. Biden noted that his top priority is the passage of a new economic stimulus plan and repairing the U.S. economy.

But Mr. Biden added that he had spoken to House and Senate Democrats about whether it would be possible to “bifurcate” Congressional business, splitting days between impeachment and confirming his nominees and passing his agenda. 

“I haven’t gotten an answer from the Parliamentarian yet,” the president-elect said at Christiana Hospital in Newark, Del., where he received a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine.

New National Journey

Former presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton will be at Biden's inauguration. 

Donald Trump will be notably absent. Current vice President Mike Pence and the second lady plan to attend.

"America United"

The Inaugural Committee said the theme of the inauguration will be "America United".

“This inauguration marks a new chapter for the American people — one of healing, of unifying, of coming together, of an America united,” said PIC CEO Dr. Tony Allen. “It is time to turn the page on this era of division. The inaugural activities will reflect our shared values and serve as a reminder that we are stronger together than we are apart, just as our motto ‘e pluribus unum’ reminds us — out of many, one.”

“Field of Flags"

At a time when Americans cannot gather together in person for the inauguration, the PIC will install an extensive public art display on the National Mall that will include approximately 191,500 U.S. flags of varying sizes, including flags representing every state and territory, and 56 pillars of light. This Field of Flags, which will cover the National Mall up to 13th Street, will represent the American people who are unable to travel to Washington, DC, and reflect PIC’s commitment to an inclusive and safe event that everyone can enjoy from their home. 

Enormous Undertaking

Uniting America after this debacle will be an enormous undertaking. 

Trump purposely sowed seeds of disunity that may easily last many years. 

About a third of the nation wrongly believes Biden stole the election despite the fact there is virtually no evidence of the charge, to a degree that would change anything.

A search for dead voters turned up 2. Two recounts in Georgia turned up a handful of votes.

Dominion filed a lawsuit over Sidney Powell's absurd allegations and I expect Dominion will win.

In court after court, Trump's attorneys would not tell the court it had evidence of fraud.

Why?

Because team Trump had no real evidence of fraud, just fraudulent allegations. 

There are penalties for lying to a judge. There are no penalties for lying to the public. That is why Trump perused his charges of fraud in the court of public opinion instead of a court of law.

Please read that last paragraph over and over again until it sinks in.

Message of Unity

The impeachment process itself will not deliver a message of unity. Nor would failure to impeach appease the 50% of the nation who rightfully believes Trump is wholly or partially to blame for the Capitol riots.

That balancing is a core ingredient of Biden's dilemma.

Nonetheless, the presence of Bush and Pence at the inauguration will be a good start to what will be a lengthy healing process.

We should all wish Biden well, no matter what one thinks of him or Democrats in general. 

Addendum: Time to Stand Down

Mish

Comments (202)
shamrock
shamrock

There's still time for trump to issue a blanket pardon for all involved in the insurrection. They are patriots after all.

Doug78
Doug78

You are dreaming Mish.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2

We could bring "draw and quarter" for a seditious act. That would be healing for me.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

Impeachment is a farce imho......no chance of a conviction. Maybe if Trump had beaten that cop to death with a fire extinguisher personally....but he didn’t, and the Republicans have already gotten over their initial outrage and started closing ranks.

A better way to handle it would be to just indict Trump in federal court as a private citizen, the moment he leaves office. If you read all those briefs from past OLC’s, you can see that the entirety of the idea that a sitting President can’t be indicted.....has everything to do with it interfering with him carrying out his duties.

More than one of them mentions that such an indictment might even be okay....as long as the case could then be delayed until the POTUS was no longer in office.

How conservative legal bullshit artists (like Dershowitz) got from there to this idea that the President is above the law and that maybe he can even self-pardon.....is an enormous stretch of the legal precedent.

The legal canon needs very badly to be set straight, and this is the time to do it. It just remains to be seen if the political will exist to do it. I expect to be disappointed, as usual.

But his idea....that by “just moving on” the “country can heal” is very short-sighted....and therefore likely to carry the day, since nobody, least of all Joe Biden, wants to do anything that might require moral courage or endanger the Democrats new (and probably temporary) advantage.

If we don’t deal with this now, we’ll be seeing it come up again, in my view, and the next time we have a demagogue trying to throw his weight around and ignore the US Constitution, it might be even easier for him or here to get ways with it.

Trump should go to jail...but I’d settle for him losing his right to run for office....any felony conviction will do.

Sechel
Sechel

I pushed Gramma down the stairs. but don't call the cops as I'm moving out in 10 days and if you do we'll never unify the family seems to be the argument for not holding Trump and his golpistas accountable. Its crap! Trump. Rudy, Cruz , Hawley, Don jr are just as guilty as the MAGAs that stormed the capital. I'm angry. We had a coup d'etat. Yes it failed. Yes it was incompetently organized but the goal was to stop the transfer of power and people showed up with the intent of harming Pence, Pelosi and other elected leaders. We can't whitewash this

Sechel
Sechel

Impeachment will not remove Trump from office before his term ends but there must be repercussions. Trump committed sedition. If this isn't impeachable or punishable then nothing is

Jackula
Jackula

Lincoln wanted the military occupation of the South ended as soon as possible for good reason, to heal the nation faster. FDR chose not to pursue those that were planning a coup against him when the general who was selected to be the dictator ratted on them. Lets learn from our very wise forefathers. Our Federal government needs to focus on the pandemic and the economic fallout asap. The human suffering is immense. Lengthy legal processes just keeps Trump in the news cycle and keeps Washington's limited focus on the less important stuff.

Doug78
Doug78

This is the end of the beginning. Not the beginning of the end. Many people have suddenly realized that if they don't toe the party line bad things will happen to them. I wonder how that makes them feel?

caradoc-again
caradoc-again

For over a year I've thought whoever won this election would wish they hadn't, well before this latest debacle. Trump made it easier for Biden, there is someone (& group) to blame. He has more cover for any decisions.

The only way out is through. Through a depression. The economy is shot to pieces. Debt will never be paid back, the $ will become toilet paper. Unemployment is endemic and will take years to recover from.

Multiple terms of bad decisions coming home to roost, not just under Trump. Senseless wars whilst enemies are growing stronger and better organised.

Ignoring the needs or ordinary citizens for short term financial gain of the few instead of infrastructure investment to help the economy for the many.

Poor education system, erosion of moral values that have repeatedly lifted populations out of the dirt - labour, spend less than you earn.

Corruption of the financial system, debasement of tge currency, allowing monopolistic behaviours, cronyism, extreme levels of lobbying.

The only way out is through and it will hurt.

A hard rain is gonna fall.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

If nothing is done at this point then Trump is free to run again in 4 years. Given the depth of his support I see no reason why he would not win the Republican nomination 3 years from now. The Republican brain trust was unable to stop him winning 4 years ago, despite their misgivings, and I don’t see them being able to stop him next go round either. For that reason alone he either needs to be impeached or convicted. If the Republicans have any sense they will fall on their sword for the good of their party and country and start the healing process.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

We don’t need a new stimulus package until we manage to defeat this COVID-19 virus thru vaccination and / or herd immunity. What we do need right now is a safety net for the unemployed and the homeless. The last stimulus package mainly benefited the wealthy exacerbating the difference between the haves and the have nots. No amount of stimulus right now will jump start the economy until it is safe to start eating out again, attend concerts and sporting events, take vacations etc. This is a great country and we will find our way back although it may take longer than anyone expects.

Frank Sterle Jr.
Frank Sterle Jr.

Just the loss itself is touted as sufficient proof that Trump was cheated from a victory due to atypically massive electoral-ballot fraud—a claim they cannot factually support. (But they’d vehemently deny that any form of electoral fraud may have unjustly put Trump into the White House four years ago.)

Were there not scrutineers from both political camps monitoring the election, including ballot counts, last November?

Long before election day, Trump was saying he may not respect a Biden win, as though preparing his voter base for his inevitable refusal to leave office, at least not with dignity.

I find it plausible they’re maintaining ‘Trump was cheated’ as an excuse for their attempt to overturn Joe Biden’s (apparently quite) legitimate electoral win—or at least make it as unpleasant as possible, as we saw on Jan. 6.

Could those Trump supporters consciously or subconsciously believe that he MUST remain in office for some perceived greater good—notably to save America, make it great again or to simply do ‘God’s will’—regardless of his democratically-decided election loss, and all of those in the (non-surprising) majority who voted against Trump MUST be overridden?

Might it be a case of that perhaps most dangerous of ideologies: the end justifies the means?

I’m not equating Trump or his base support to any of history’s genocidal maniacs, but the most frightful example of that philosophical justification is the pogrom, the implementers of which know they’re committing mass murder yet still genuinely perceive it all as part of an ultimately greater good.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

On state.gov for a brief moment, it had Donald Trump resignation. It is now gone, I wish I had captured a screen shot.

Realist
Realist

Wow. Mish. You must have a very high opinion of Biden. He is not Superman. Or God. He can try to heal the nation, but that isnt going to happen in his lifetime, or yours.

The USA is full of hate and guns.

The FBI is warning of armed demonstrations that are planned in all states by Trump cult members.

The MAGA deep state was involved in the planning and execution of the insurrection at the Capitol. Many Capitol Police are being investigated, suspended, or arrested.

The acting secretary of homeland security just resigned. At the same time that a great threat to the country was just announced. I wonder why?

As more happens, and more comes out over the next few weeks, it will be clear that this insurrection isnt over yet. There will be no healing until long after this has been stopped.

Telenochek82
Telenochek82

The United States is already united including extreme left, extreme right and center. They are united as the nation of have nots against the oligarchy of 1%. United States economy in the last many decades has grown enormously, but all of the spoils went to the top. The legislative branch is completely corrupted by money on both the left and the right.

I hope there is a leader with genuine values that delivers that message , and does something about it. Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders both tap into that message, although completely different species integrity wise.

The last man who truly delivered that message and believed in it was Ross Perot.

We're already united on that front I think on both left and right.

Doug78
Doug78

All countries in the EU is condemning this censorship. The Digital Services Act will pass in a strengthened form. They will kick these companies out of Europe because they have shown what they truly are, monopolies who will do anything to keep out competition. They will be taxed much more, they will have to publish their algorisms, they will have to open their closed ecosystems and much more. They are going to find out that they are not essential and can easily be replaced. They backed the wrong horse. The uproar here is quite unanimous.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

If we truly want to change this country for the better then we need to consider drastic changes to the political system such as introducing term limits for senators and congressmen, the elimination of Super Pacs and dare I say the whole Party system.

numike
numike

WHY ? WHY?? THIS BRINGS ME TO TEARS Are there any good people left ?? Fewer and fewer Floridians care. Its all about the weather and build build build to the point they have soiled not only the environment but their psyche

Realist
Realist

There will be no healing as long as the TTO, Trump Terror Organization, is finally put down. For now, the plotting of insurrection is still in its’ infancy. Lots more to come.

As the lady who was yelling at Lyndsey Graham said, “This is the way it’s going to be for the rest of your life”.

numike
numike

"Our country suffers all. How long will this go on? What is happening to us? Through our sins evil has assumed human form. God will forgive you, don't forgive yourself."

Andrei Rublev was a Russian icon painter born in the 1360s, and died between 1427 and 1430[2] in Moscow. He is considered to be one of the greatest medieval Russian painters of Orthodox Christian icons and frescos.

Webej
Webej

So Americans will unite around shared values, epitomized by 4 indemnified war criminals, and harking back to some good old McCarthyism/Salem witch hunts, with a new ‘war’ against vaguely defined domestic terrorism granting new arbitrary powers to a new collaboration between the intelligence ‘community’ and the corporatocracy.

njbr
njbr

Hitting him where his heart is...

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A lot has happened in the last week, including the president losing his Twitter feed, impeachment coming to the fore and the PGA withdrawing from Trump National. He's "gutted" by the PGA move, a person close to the White House says. He’s angry about impeachment, people who have spoken to him say. But the reaction to the PGA decision was different order of magnitude.

Rbm
Rbm

Trump is a rock in the right shoe of democracy. Better to stop and remove it before it blisters and gets infected. The republicans need to step up and take care of their on instead of waiting for the dems to do their dirty work for them. That would show some unity. But just like election fraud they are gonna stand back because they are afraid of trump and his mob.

PecuniaNonOlet
PecuniaNonOlet

Well there will be plenty of healing and america will be 100% better because:

  1. Trump terrorists put on no fly list. No more trumpers on flights!
  2. Trump terrorists abandoning Marriotts and other businesses like AwS, Google, etc.
    (no more posts on these sites from Trumpers and no trumpers at checkins at hotels)!
  3. Trump terrorists wont be able to own guns again (legally), no more mass shootings!
  4. Trump terrorists may lose the right to vote.
  5. Trump terrorist likely to lose their jobs, no more trumpers at the office.
  6. Trump terrorists likely to go to prison.

I am sure as the week goes by there may be more but I feel the healing already.

Tengen
Tengen

There isn't much healing on the horizon. I recommend Matt Taibbi's "Hate, Inc" to anyone who wants to know about why the media likes Americans being in different silos and how we got here. Echo chambers have played a huge role in this division.

Besides the media, our two party duopoly is awful and many Americans can't face the fact that our boneheaded economic decisions, like ZIRP , QE, and constant Fed meddling are killing us. Financial blame is clearly bipartisan and therefore nobody wants to touch it. Instead we focus on issues where only certain sections of the population can be blamed.

So we have a country of very questionable character to begin with, complemented by a media and political system that loves division. It's not exactly a recipe for success, is it?

Sechel
Sechel

United the country doesn't mean turning a blind eye toward sedition and being one o the putchists. The MAGA'S must think Biden a fool. There can't be forgiveness without accountability. The time to forgive is after people have been prosecuted and their actions allocuted.

Rbm
Rbm

Think a post did not go thur. Need to not let this fester. Unity would start by the republicans standing up and defending the constitution. They did not say anything about election fraud. Just stood by like now they are gonna want the dems to do their dirty work for them.
Right now the president incited a coup and his only punishment has been losing his social media acct.

Johnson1
Johnson1

Ron Paul Facebook page has been locked for violating community standards. I have not been following him as of late but I thought he was a libertarian now.


In January 2013, Paul retired from Congress but still remains active on college campuses, giving speeches promoting his libertarian vision.[11][12] He also continues to provide political commentary through The Ron Paul Liberty Report, a web show he co-hosts on YouTube. Paul received one electoral vote from a Texas faithless elector in the 2016 presidential election, making him the oldest person to receive an electoral vote, as well as the second registered Libertarian presidential candidate in history to receive an Electoral College vote, after John Hospers in 1972.

amigator
amigator

The seeds where planted way before Trump was elected. Trump was elected from some of those seeds and other sprouts that were looking for something different from their elected officials. It is pretty obvious now that the powers to be (whomever they are) were not happy with an outsider exposing the nonsense that goes on in their town within the walls of their precious "Capitol Building" their own playground called Washington DC (ie the last COVID relief bill was anything but COVID relief). The massive investigation (of election fraud by Trump...lol) the previous impeachment and now a second impeachment (it too will fail) and the total harassment of judges proposed by the elected Prez. Unbelievable!

Now we are putting into power the people that actually started the planting of those seeds. For over 40 years JB and his crew planted embryos and has been fertilizing them into sprouts spreading throughout the country nurturing them with policies, and taxes that have brought great wealthy to the political profession and the demise of the middle class and America with it.

I wish him best of luck and can't wait to see his policies unite our country.

njbr
njbr

making the rounds on the networks...

<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfiDTOXYAI2AGm?format=jpg&name=large" alt="Image"/>

njbr
njbr

Painted horned shaman cosplayer....Jacob Chansley, AKA Jake Angeli, Arizona man makes first court appearance in for charges related to storming the U.S. Capitol. His mom says he hasn’t eaten since Friday because the detention facility won’t feed him all organic food. @abc15

Rusty Nail
Rusty Nail

Republicans have a great chance now to show they want unity. They can vote to impeach Trump.

Sechel
Sechel

Quote from John Cleese:

With the benefit of hindsight, would you say that the Nuremberg Trials were divisive

Sechel
Sechel

How does this not apply?

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

FromBrussels
FromBrussels

The hypocrite, warmonging black messiah, Bill-ary Clinton known for lying and corruption and Bush the Supreme Liar standing by the new dyed-in-the-wool Deep State puppet ! NICE ! America is united again.....IN EVIL !

Webej
Webej

Was there a coup? Who was in on it? Who was organizing? What interests do they represent? How close did they get to pulling it off?

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

I really think the best direction forward for Biden is not to look back and even bring up Trump's name giving him any blame or credibility. The quicker we forget Donald Trump the faster we can move on.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

Before a problem can be fixed you first have to recognize you have a problem. The Republicans have yet to recognize Trump is the problem, at least publicly. One thought that served me well in my long high pressured career is that problems generally don’t age well. Far better off to recognize the problem and deal with it rather than closing your eyes and hoping it will go away.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T

As far as healing...this is the kind of thing I hope we see more of....the younger crowd might not even know, but Neil Young was major “influencer” during the Vietnam War....no kind of right-winger, I can tell you that. I read his book written in recent years, titled Waging Heavy Peace.....he’s a Canuck, but a lot of old dudes inAmerica still love this guy.

He says some empathy is called for.....for people who have been manipulated and lied to by Trump.......I agree.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

I will say it here to anyone who thinks Trump is right about election fraud - LEAVE THE COUNTRY if you think there was widespread election fraud that would have affected the outcome. We have laws in this country and if you don't want to live by them don't let the door hit you on the way out.

LewisM
LewisM

As far as Biden is concerned, I think he only has to manage to not be Trump and he'll be wildly popular. Trump is a nasty ripe fart that America passed in 2016 and he's been slowly dissipating ever since. He'll go meekly now that his creditors and various and assorted federal agencies come after him.


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