Retired Marine General Latest to Admonish Trump

Mish

The number of high-ranking ex-military members blasting Trump has grown every day. Add a Marine general to the list.

Please note that retired top Marine Gen. John Allen joins Mattis dissent from Trump.

Allen warns of 'Beginning of the End' for Democracy if troops are used against protests.

Allen, the former commander of the NATO International Security Assistance Force and U.S. forces in Afghanistan, said Trump’s halting Rose Garden speech in which he declared himself the “president of law and order,” the use of tear gas on protesters outside the White House and the church photo op that followed Monday was a “stunning” moment and potentially a pivotal one.

“Donald Trump expressed only the barest of condolences at the murder of George Floyd, but he also said nothing about the fundamental and underlying reasons for the unrest: systemic racism and inequality, a historic absence of respect, and a denial of justice,” Allen wrote.

 “...Donald Trump isn’t religious, has no need of religion, and doesn’t care about the devout, except insofar as they serve his political needs,” he added. “He failed to project any of the higher emotions or leadership desperately needed in every quarter of this nation during this dire moment.”

“Fully equipped riot police and troops violently, and without provocation, set upon the peaceful demonstrators there, manhandling and beating many of them, employing flash-bangs, riot-control agents, and pepper spray throughout,” he wrote. “These demonstrators had done nothing to warrant such an attack. Media who were watching over the scene craned their cameras to try to understand what had happened to justify this violence, until it became clear for all to see. The riot police had waded into these nonviolent American citizens — who were protesting massive social injustice — with the sole purpose of clearing the area around St. John’s Episcopal Church, on the other side of the park, so the self-proclaimed 'ally of peaceful protesters,' Donald Trump, could pose there for a photo-op.”

Right to Peaceful Protest

There is a right to peaceful protest. And this was peaceful protest, at least until Trump forced his way into the scene for a photo op. 

Yet people still defend Trump. They claim it was not a peaceful protest. 

Facts of the Matter

  1. It was a peaceful protest
  2. The Attorney General forcibly had a path cleared for Trump by MPs
  3. News media were smashed 
  4. Only 2 Republican senators stood up for Trump
  5. Numerous ranking ex-military officials admit Trump broke up a peaceful protest and that was a constitutionally dangerous thing to do

I am sure someone can dig up some small snip that shows it was not peaceful, most likely after the MPs started smashing people, but the big, oft-repeated complaint was the MPs did not use teargas.

OK it was pepper spray or smoke canisters as if that matters one bit (it doesn't). 

Amazing Lengths

Trump's supporters twist themselves in knots to avoid admitting he did anything wrong.

TDS Types One and Two

If you are looking for TDS, look no further than the Tweet above. 

Such supporters believe Trump can do anything and everything and they will defend Trump no matter what he says or does.

Yes, there are those who will never admit Trump has done anything right.

They have TDS too. I leave it to the reader to decide which form of TDS is worse.

Trump is a Threat to the Constitution

Former Defense Secretary James Mattis denounced President Trump as a Threat to the Constitution.

Yesterday, I chimed in with the same message Trump is a Threat to the Constitution.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. 

James N. Miller Accuses Trump of Crossing the Line

Defense Science Board Member and former under secretary of defense, James N. Miller, resigned today.

In his resignation letter, Miller said to the current Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper: "Law-abiding protesters just outside the White House were dispersed using tear gas and rubber bullets — not for the sake of safety, but to clear a path for a presidential photo op. You then accompanied President Trump in walking from the White House to St. John’s Episcopal Church for that photo. "

Miller also accused Esper of violating his oath of office. He also accused Trump and Esper of crossing a line.

"I must now ask: If last night’s blatant violations do not cross the line for you, what will?" asked Miller.

I Cannot Remain Silent

Mike Mullen , Seventeenth chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says I Cannot Remain Silent.

I remain confident in the professionalism of our men and women in uniform. They will serve with skill and with compassion. They will obey lawful orders.

I am less confident in the soundness of the orders they will be given by this commander in chief, and I am not convinced that the conditions on our streets, as bad as they are, have risen to the level that justifies a heavy reliance on military troops. Certainly, we have not crossed the threshold that would make it appropriate to invoke the provisions of the Insurrection Act.

Praised China's Crackdown at Tiananmen Square

Trump's TDS afflicted supporters will never admit Trump was wrong. 

Never. Most of them want Trump to act like China and crush any dissent with as much force as it takes. 

Please note that Trump Praised China's Crackdown at  Tiananmen Square.

"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

Fast-forward to 2020, and Trump has called on US governors to use law enforcement to "dominate" protesters who've flooded the streets of cities across America to demonstrate against police brutality.

Something Changed for the Better: Trump's Bubble Just Shattered

Fortunately, Something Changed for the Better: Trump's Bubble Just Shattered.

How do I know that?

Easy. 

  1. It is not often four Republican Senators openly blast Trump.
  2. It is not often that only 2 Republican Senators defend Trump.
  3. It is not often retired admirals blast a sitting president
  4. It is not often an ex-Defense Secretary blasts a sitting president
  5. It is not often a chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff says "I Cannot Remain Silent."
  6. It is not often someone turns in their resignation to the current Defense Secretary, accusing the Secretary and Trump of "crossing the line".

Trump's supporters look the other way.

They fabricate excuses like the protest was not peaceful, besides "It was not teargas". 

What a pathetic disgrace.

Mish

Comments (158)
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marg54
marg54

Do you think it is possible, that finally, enough people have called out that the Emporer is not wearing clothes and the truth is coming out?

oldman45
oldman45

I was a naval officer stationed in Long Beach, CA in 1968 and was sent to riot control school with other military personel to provide military support for law enforcement due to the unrest caused by two assassinations of note. I hate that we have gotten to the point where the military might have to be used, but if anarchists are starting to rule the streets and law enforcement can't handle it, what do you suggest we do?

Isaiah217
Isaiah217

You quote military leaders condemning Trump ( much of what he says and does is dumb ) for violating our constitution while they been busy violating allot more than that all over the world for decades. Not exactly credible sources on freedom.

Vietnam, Iraq, Iraq, Syria, just to name the obvious ones but the list goes on and on.

Zardoz
Zardoz

I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government.” – Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 1787

Tengen
Tengen

This is instructive so I hope people are paying attention. In recent years I've read a ton of posts around the web where self-proclaimed "Constitutional conservatives" welcomed the idea of a civil war because they believed the US military and police would be on their side. This parade of senior military officials should disabuse them of that notion, although the many misdeeds of the MIC should have tipped them off much sooner.

In the event of real unrest, the military would be playing their own game, as would most of the police around the country. Uppity civilians would be seen as enemies, just like they are in our various Forever Wars around the world. I hope people bear that in mind if they ever want to start shooting!

Snow_Dog
Snow_Dog

“They fabricate excuses like the protest was not peaceful, besides "It was not teargas".

Have you ever been around when teargas is used? Apparently neither has General Allen. There is no way it was used just before Trump did his photo op.

Look, I get it, you don’t support Trump. That’s fine, but lying about him every day is not.

Helene84
Helene84

Let's not forget that Mattis and Trump fell out because Trump wanted to withdraw troops from Syria. Remember those few days in 2019 when liberals suddenly cared about the Kurds more than anything in the world, and were demanding that our troops stay in Syria forever to steal sovereign Syrian land to create a Kurdish ethno-state which no other nation in the region supports? Good times but they dropped those concerns as fast as they've now dropped their Covid cares in favor of the next TDS mass hysteria event.

Mattis has no moral high ground here. He doesn't want the military to protect innocent civilians from violent rioters at home because he prefers to have them killing innocent civilians overseas in endless resource wars. I do expect a parade of neocons to step forward and complain about Trump misusing our armed forces, but it is hot air since these same craven actors have been abusing our military for over 20 years.

thimk
thimk

One can only make a decision on what available media evidence presents itself .
didn't some purport trump was" hiding" in his bunker ? The king has been defrocked by the social media mob and deep state . It is clear any action trump manifests will/was be met with massive contrarian response. Trump is toxic now . Political ties are social distancing. mission accomplished. disclaimer I'm not a avid trump supporter but I'm not joining in the dog pile and i tend to look at the big picture. Perhaps a musical victory tribute is in order ushering in the post trump reign of terror and the new age of rainbow and lollipops . PS don't dwell on the minutia.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

If you can't give an example of something Trump has done wrong, you are a cultist.

There'a a simple way to prove you are not a cultist. Give an example of something Trump has done wrong.

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

President Trump has stepped in it well and truly. There is no denying that.

One of the key things he got wrong is that federal government should not use the military domestically except in the most dire of circumstances, and not without a request and full support from local officials. He has possibly hung himself with his position on that.

That said, it does seem Mish's criticism of the President has been one-sided lately. I get that the church photo fiasco was a very bad move. No doubt everybody gets that now. However, I cannot be certain of the details. Did President Trump know the crowd was forcibly cleared just before he got there? (Some say he did not.) Did a few select people in the crowd start attacking the Park Police before they made their move and just before President Trump was due to arrive? (Some say yes.) These details matter and I have not seen evidence that proves these facts either way. Mish seems pretty certain and I wonder, how does he know?

Also, there is the open question of why the riots are so widespread and appear to be well coordinated. Is someone organizing that? The DOJ is investigating. If it turns out that a radical offshoot of the Democratic Party is organizing these then do we really want to be running into their arms? I am just saying that we need to be a little bit careful.

stillCJ
stillCJ

Editor

I remember a time when an anti-war Mish would have been bashing the warmonger Mad Dog Mattis, but now he seems to agree with him because he is criticizing Trump. There also used to be a time when Mish wrote economic articles and not much political stuff, unless it was favorable to libertarian philosophy. I miss the old Mish.

bradw2k
bradw2k

Barr lied through his teeth I mean explained the Lafayette Square event today. He claimed they were moving the blockade one block north so that thrown bricks wouldn't hit secret service heads. And the plan was to do the move much earlier in the day, before a large crowd was assembled, but there were these logistical complications -- so they HAD to make the move at 630pm. Apparently delaying the move until 8am was out of the question. Also, it had nothing at all to do with the President's stroll, which he wouldn't characterize as a political move, by the way. Also: bricks!

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Looks like 8-10 GOP senators are forming a wall against Trump. The drumbeat to removing Trump in the senate may be on. McConnel may have to pick between supporting Trump or losing the senate in addition to the White House in November. The GOP has more than one problem in 2020.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

I am tired of all this winning.

Webej
Webej

[Not a thing]
1 Teargas used
2 Evidence that it was Trump giving the orders
3 "Systemic racism" -- systemic injustice is the story of mankind. Give me a break. This is cultural Marxist lingo.

And I don't belive in cultural marxism.
And Trump is an ignorant moron, yes.

Sechel
Sechel

I'm open to the idea that Esper, Mattis, Alllen & Miller's actions prevented Trump from bringing the military in to quell the protests.

I also see Bill Barr acting very much as Darth Vader to Donald Trump's being the emperor each day despite Trump not having the intelligence. Barr brought in border control agents and prison police all unmarked to deal with the protesters the types least trained to deal with the general public in a professional manner(This is a job or police and state militia) Barr continues to lie about an ANTIFA component when the facts suggest otherwise including the actual arrests and prosecutions. They even asked Barr about Boogoloo he avoide naming them and just focuses on ANTIFA a popular target of the Right.

And I continue to enjoy Mish writing these posts and then finishing with that he can't vote for either candidate expressing once again an implied indifference to the two candidates.

mrutkaus
mrutkaus

Regarding comments here, Anne Applebaum on NPR "Fresh Air" yesterday had an insightful talk about why Trump may do things, not for reasons you may have thought:

Sechel
Sechel

There's a reason why Donald Trump expressed only the barest of condolences at the murder of George Floyd, he's a racist at heart and the Floyd murder doesn't bother him all that much. Deep down Trump is a racist. He has a history beginning with depriving blacks of housing at his father's company in Brooklyn and Queens, calling for the death of the central park 5 and never apologizing despite their innocence and going on a birther attack against Obama. At his companies he will never have a black accountant or lawyer. I've never seen a black executive when I've been there.

Jack Barlow
Jack Barlow

The same Gen. Allen that endorsed Hillary Clinton for President and spoke at the 2016 Democratic National Convention.

Herkie
Herkie

The real problem here is that as he has dropped into a really desperate position in the polls and appears to be losing to Biden he is getting more and more authoritarian, pandering ever more to his far right base that includes racists and gun nuts and sovereign citizen types. He did cross the line with the photo op and we are seeing some backlash, but what next? Will he pull a Kent State? Put troops in harms way at a protest that he whips up the temperature of with incendiary remarks? Set up a situation where he can have a photo op over the bodies of dead protesters and claim to be the law and order president? If ever there was a politician that did not care about rights (or even know what they are) this is he.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

At least Trump is finally getting his wall albeit around the White House. He is nothing more than a bully, a coward and a disgrace to the US Presidency.

Anda
Anda

So far wrt , I don't see need to defend Trump. All I saw was a president walking to a church and back to make a statement of faith.

Teargas does not matter ? So that's ok also ? Why so many piping the exact same error of narrative though ?

Tiananmen, he stated what happened, was it biased towards ? First hand acounts from there have it that the casualties were mostly average folk and the committed agitators fled.

So, I'm defending Trump ? Or just questioning what a line of criticism is based on ?

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

Maybe it is time to target Trumps henchmen. There is a website raising campaign funds to defeat Mitch McConnell and turn the senate blue. Might start to change their tune if they think there re-election chances are under threat.

frozeninthenorth
frozeninthenorth

The top military brass' message was to those in a position of power in the military -- and giving them notice that they may be following "illegal orders" with personal implications for the military enforcing these orders.

You don't get a pass when you enforce an illegal order. You can also bet your last dollar that there will be zero consequence for the one who gave the order -- Trump!

RonJ
RonJ

Who invoked the insurrection act in 1992 and what generals spoke up against it?

Tim E
Tim E

The greatest threat to the Constitution is The Federal Reserve. The Constitution died a slow painful death ever since it's inception. The great war between the States was one of the defining moments. Check out Lysander Spooner, and his treatise, NO TREASON No. VI. THE CONSTITUTION OF NO AUTHORITY.

As for the Constitution v. Federal Reserve:

Section 10

1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

RonJ
RonJ

"They fabricate excuses like the protest was not peaceful, besides "It was not teargas".

What a pathetic disgrace."

Fabricating excuses. The police officers were not wearing gas masks, so no tear gas was being used. That is a fact, not an excuse.

What was the excuse to riot?

Trump moved to send federal investigators to Minneapolis. The officers involved were arrested and charged with crimes by the Minnesota attorney general.

That would have occurred without riots.

amigator
amigator

Semper Fi!

I would be more interested in his thoughts about the Federal Reserve number one and then how to address the discrimination issues that are plaguing this great country!

RonJ
RonJ

"Then there are the opposite of the anarchists that also show up at peaceful protests and turn them violent, the fascists and racists, the in your face right wingers that Trump is aligned with, like the ones that showed up in a SUV and shot dead a young black male protester.

I wish Bill Barr would get his head out of Trump's ass and apply the power of the DoJ to finding and prosecuting these people, and quit vilifying the peaceful protesters."

Herkie, you make such a great propagandist. Trump sent federal investigators to Minneapolis to ensure justice for George Floyd. It is illegal to murder a black protester and it is illegal to murder a black ex police officer and under Trump, both will be tracked down by law enforcement and prosecuted.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh

Counter letter from Marine John Dowd

There are always two sides. Mish has taken one (which is fine), but half of what he wrote was factually inaccurate, however believed as true for TDS-ers (Type A = Anti-Trump).

(Seems that links from twitter don't work when I paste them. Here is the letter in another publication from a search:)

PawnInTheGame
PawnInTheGame

Here's another point of view:

"One important thing also that General Mattis brought up in his very, very flimsy article," Murdock concluded. "He said, 'At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so on very rare occasions by state governors' . . . .

"This is the Insurrection Act of 1807. It's been used by 12 different presidents from Jefferson all the way to George H.W. Bush. One of those occasions was by the Democrat hero Lyndon Baines Johnson. He actually brought in the military -- guess what? -- to put down riots in Washington, D.C," he said.

"So General Mattis really should have picked up a couple of his history books."

Freebees2me
Freebees2me

So how long can the "POLICE" keep up this pace? Working day after day, generally double shifts.

When do the police say - I'm done.

The Military is to BACK-UP the police - not be the police.

Trump played this exactly right - the Mayors and Governors NOW OWN THIS MESS. Politically, he's for law and order. And, everyone else is not...

Blacks are for law and order. This is impacting their communities the most.

AWC
AWC

There are likely as many Democrats as Republicans in the military, providing whatever cherry-picking opportunity media seeks. Spin, spin, spin.

sangell
sangell

It seems many here are unaware of the promotion process in the military. I will help them out. EVERY promotion to the rank of O-7 or above must be approved by the president and confirmed by the Senate. This allows a lot of clowns and buffoons to become generals. Clinton had Admiral Boorda and Obama General Petraeus e.g.!

General Allen's resume includes Commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan. While his service may have been honorable it was hardly effective and that is likely the reason he retired ( unless it was age, you cannot be promoted past age 62) as he, like Mattis, had Peter principled himself from higher rank.

Sechel
Sechel

And now Mattis lets loose. Generals do not do this readily. It should not be taken lightly.

Sechel
Sechel

I'm seeing a new zeitgeist where protestors are standing up to injustice and the generals like Kelly, Mattis, Allen and Miller all having their I am Spartacus moment. Something has changed. People are finally saying ENOUGH. Should have happened earlier but it is happening.

Jdog1
Jdog1

I wish to hell people would stop confusing anarchy with chaos. Anarchists are people who believe government is evil because of its use of force. They do not believe in riots or looting. They believe in the non aggression principal. To call the rioters and looters anarchists is just plain stupid. We have a truly ignorant population.

Jdog1
Jdog1

The people are sheep. They are being led by a false narrative.

wmjack
wmjack

The deep state is deep---all these critics of TRUMP have been sucking the Government tit their whole careers. None have been productive out side of government only parasites in the government structure
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LexRex1776
LexRex1776

Did anyone expect these deep state stooges who have earned their living by protecting the crony capitalists' overseas assets to applaud President Trump and AG Barr in their efforts to bring the crony capitalists players in the FBI, CIA, and State Department down?

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Trump is not going to cede power even if loses. You heard it here first. This week was a dry run for what's to come. He has the support of Pompeo and Barr but not the military. Trump is going full Putin this summer and fall. But it will not work. Come January he will be killed or marched out the White House.

bowwow
bowwow

In my area the peaceful protest was a BLM protest. They are anti constitution and overall anti American government. Their current concern seems to be another anti, which is anti-law enforcement. They want to take-over the government by invalidating the laws used to govern in order to have justice for the oppressed. They don't believe that existing laws benefit them. They do believe their 2nd amendment rights are important.

I saw a lot of anti-Trump, no pro-Biden and one Bernie t-shirt. This is a commie group from the leftist wing of the Democrats. The protest included 100-150 people the vast majority of whom were non-black.

I haven't figured-out what BLM peaceful protesters' relationship is with rioters in the area. I've seen some of the damage, but not the riots. They do sympathize with them. I also don't know how much they have donated to the politicians who seem to virtue-signal and accommodate the the BLM agenda.

Montana33
Montana33

I agree with you Mish on all counts. Great article.

Montana33
Montana33

people are starting to sound too confident about Trump losing, just like 2016. Trump just has to convince enough apathetic people in Swing States to not bother voting and the Republicans have perfected voter suppression. At least half of these protestors are realistically not going to vote. Voter apathy in Democratic leaning populations is a real thing. Again - everyone with a microphone should be starting and ending with voting as the main thing that matters. Protests come and go. A unified voting block is the most important thing.

RLJ
RLJ

Seems like we are seeing a soft military coup going on. Allen's comments are factually incorrect as are Mattis's. For Mattis to claim Trump proposed unconstitutional actions is factually inaccurate. Mattis was referring to using active-duty troop to quell riots. If Mattis has lost the stomach to command troops that is his problem but in fact, the use of active-duty military has been used frequently throughout our history for just that purpose. Here is a list of presidents that invoked the Insurrection Act to deploy troops.

" Presidents Jefferson, Jackson, Grant, Hayes, Cleveland, Wilson, F. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, L. Johnson, and G HW Bush have all invoked the Insurrection Act. Since 1968, it has been invoked 5 times…to quell riots." LCol Mike Ford US Army Ret @ Redsdate

Posting fake information is below you Mish.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh

If this doesn't work, it's a picture from a tweet by Catherine Herridge: "READ: The UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) is the legal foundation for the military justice system and lists offenses. +100 Articles. Article 2 and Article 88 posted here.." In which it clearly states that Retired Officers if they criticize the CiC can be court martialled.

Acc to famous whistleblower Sibel Edmunds, this is preparatory to a harder phase of ongoing coup attempt - getting top brass denunciations indicative of a split within - usually leading to an attempt to actually replace Trump with a caretaker President (probably Obama) under martial law, then have elections in a year or two, by which time a police state will have been well established making future elections a very different affair. I think this is more than fanciful, however she might be right that these public defections and criticisms are indicative of a more critical 'Defcon' level politically. They've been trying to unseat him since before he took the oath of office and have committed no end of sins since then in so doing, this is just raising the stakes since he has survived the seditious attacks thus far.

And given his track record thus far, I expect him to turn these attacks to his advantage. One of his most intelligent tactics has been to play the buffoon; that way his enemies continually underestimate his ability to strategise, think on his feet, play the long game or react very quickly. In any case, the more out on a limb the attacks get, not only will more American citizens get to see just how far the opposition will go into lawless territory, but also his counterattacks might actually manage to put some of them away for a long time.


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