Protesters Attack CNN, Smash Cars in Atlanta and LA

Mish

Riots over the death of George Floyd’s death continues for fourth day

Worse yet, the violence has spread from Minneapolis to other cities.

Los Angeles

Atlanta

Political Protests Can Influence Elections

Minneapolis

Minneapolis was the trigger for these events. 

Riots that have been underway for four days now following the death of George Floyd.

Floyd was pinned down by a Minneapolis police officer with a knee in his neck. 

Trump sent in the national guard and chimed in with a pair of Tweets.

When the Looting Starts the Shooting Starts

When the Looting Starts the Shooting Starts

Twitter cited Trump for glorifying violence.

The "When the Looting Starts the Shooting Starts" quote dates to 1967. 

When 20-year Miami Police Chief Walter Headley used the phrase, he was addressing his department’s “crackdown on Negro slum hoodlums.”

“This is war. We don’t mind being accused of police brutality. They haven’t seen anything yet,” said Headley.

Trump claims to be stating facts. 

Horribly Irresponsible

Facts aside, it was a horribly irresponsible thing for Trump to say. And it will backfire on Trump.

For details including a video of the incident, and a discussion of the Tweet, please see Twitter Cites Trump for Glorifying Violence

Mish

Comments (106)
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Realist
Realist

Just more ”politics of hate” from the Divider in Chief. It won't backfire on him with his base.

Sechel
Sechel

Is it just me, I don't think Trump was successful reducing tensions.
Maybe , "you loot , we shoot" was just not the right thing to say

gregggg
gregggg

I smell George Soros money.

JohnB99
JohnB99

Since this is my old stomping grounds, i will say I'm not shocked.

I owned a restaurant on Griggs ave. (not far from the fires last night), ran businesses in uptown, lived in robbinsdale before we got out to the burbs.

This has been brewing for quite a while. In 2010, a great officer, Scott Patrick, was gunned down in cold blood. The switch was flipped and the police changed their tactics and attitudes.

There's been other officers that have been gunned down, usually tied back to Chicago based gangs.

Watching this unfold on TV, with Nat. Guard on the streets and a curfew in place...thousands ignoring it, this needs to move quick with good convictions, for the sake of the cities.

These comments are just pouring gasoline on the fire. Threatening to send in the national guard when governor Walz had already called them up, stupid. Threatening looters, stupid. This area still has high quality surveillance from the RNC convention years ago. These people are already being found & arrested in the suburbs.

tokidoki
tokidoki

Stock market will open up BIG this Monday for sure. Thank God there's some certainty in this world eh. I mean what are we going to do without the stock market? Face reality?

CautiousObserver
CautiousObserver

CNN headline: “Protests in Multiple Cities Over George Floyd’s Death”

I suspect this headline is misleading and something else is going on. For the record, police also periodically kill white guys when they should not. Some of those killings are also pretty grim. All it takes is one person in uniform using extremely bad judgement in a critical situation.

EDIT: That sounded more critical of the police than I meant it to be. As @JohnB99 mentions on this thread, the police sometimes have to deal with factors that make good judgement impossible.

az_dirt
az_dirt

Stephen Miller probably had his hand up the sock puppets ass for that tweet. Unfortunately the sock puppet doesn't have the intellect to appropriately handle this situation any more than he was able to handle the virus situation.

az_dirt
az_dirt

Trump explained by Ann Coulter:

"It is perfectly apparent to me and anyone else who has observed this president, he's impulsive, um, he says things off the top of his head, he bears the impression, um, like a couch bears the impression of the last person who sat on him...whoever gave him the last piece of advice he goes out and says it"

TimeToTest
TimeToTest

Does social media bear the responsibility of the planning of these events?

At what point should they ban the spread of information of this to stop this?

SAKMAN
SAKMAN

My guns are loaded. Dont mess with me, my house, or my family. Otherwise, I'll be in jail and that is fine by me. I'm ready. Also, I will never hire anyone that I think has been remotely involved with a value system that would encourage riots.

Mob mentality shows us that we are animals. I build. Animals feed on anything they can find.

SAKMAN
SAKMAN

Also around 150 officers die in the line of duty every year. They learn to control situations completely, else suffer the consequences of their laxity. They are afraid too.

African america MUST be elevated in this country. Riots will only make that harder.

thimk
thimk

this cop should have been fired long ago. strong politically entwined public unions make it difficult to rid the system of bad apples. Escalating anarchy, which may come to a city near you , needs to be dealt with,not sanctioned, so stop your incessant Trump bashing.

numike
numike

Gripped by disease, unemployment and outrage at the police, America plunges into crisis
“The threads of our civic life could start unraveling, because everybody’s living in a tinderbox,” said historian and Rice University professor Douglas Brinkley.

hhabana
hhabana

I'm voting for Trump after I thought to sit this election out. The senile one is not one I want representing my country either, but after viewing the anarchy by the Antifa protesters, I have no choice. I see no effort by the left to stop the violence and mayhem. They are encouraging it. So, Trump will get my vote again. Better him than Antifa and a Civil War.

jivefive99
jivefive99

Im afraid this Floyd thing was just the match. The young people of this country, fed up with college loans, non-job jobs, and having their future stolen by a small bunch of baby boomers who own America and dont want to share, have gotten their green light to create "content" for their Instagram accounts. Good news is, if the Bernie fizzle is any indication, they soon will be back to drinking, smoking and partying in a few days.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple

1992 all over again.

You think this is bad ... wait until Chauvin is acquitted!

humna909
humna909

"My guns are loaded. Dont mess with me, my house, or my family. Otherwise, I'll be in jail and that is fine by me. I'm ready. Also, I will never hire anyone that I think has been remotely involved with a value system that would encourage riots." -SAKMAN

The value system that promotes these riots is 'free-market' neo-capitalism. A value system that fosters inequality is one that creates an environment ripe for unrest.

SAKMAN
SAKMAN

All of this is happening because people have too much time on their hands.

Idle hands are the devils work. Its always been this way. Public land usage in the UK was eliminated. . . to get people to work. Ahhh, capitalism. Perhaps that is an oversimplification. Alternatively, social engineering just lead to very productive use of the land, but those that can not understand that may not like where they land in the peking order. Right now we have a lot of people that are outside of the pecking order due to this virus, they need something useful to do. The virus is a bit in the way though.

Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish

Does anyone here have links to any source that has asked participants why they are there?

Sechel
Sechel

Trump's an expert communicator. Hard to believe from someone who thinks spell-check is a Hillary supporter and Trump hater but Trump's phrase referring to you loot we shoot was intentional and a glaring dog whistle to his base. There are plenty of people who understood what it meant on both sides. No shock the rioting got worse. The President is a racist. And every time he sends out a dog whistle he claims ignorance. The pattern is all too clear. I don't know how the White House or Trump's surrogates clean this mess up . I don't know why Republicans aren't calling this out. It crossed a line by a mile.

mrutkaus
mrutkaus

I see now the US Army is "on a 4 hour alert" to quell the riots. Think about martial law with Trump in charge!

He is.

Denker
Denker

In the 77 blackout in NYC there was widespread looting. No police incident. Just the lights went out, time to load up on freebies. Hoodlums and thugs not to mention Antifas just take advantage of any excuse to riot. Although in NYC the looters were not limited to the above. It was too widespread. I saw it, driving around with a buddy in his beat up old car through Brooklyn the next morning. It was like a marketplace or carnaval under the elevated subway tracks. People with their booty standing around in front of looted stores, the cops with sirens wailing driving around, impotent. Looting, smashing car windows, attacking people at random for their appearance (like in LA 92) only reinforces stereotypes. The US is doomed, this shit will never end. Civil/race/class war is inevitable.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III

Mish, the Alex Jones related PrisonPlanet twitter link is beneath you. They are conspiracy theory crackpots.

Why not link directly to Brian Stelter?

Quatloo
Quatloo

“Facts aside, it was a horribly irresponsible thing for Trump to say. And it will backfire on Trump.”

Really Mish?! How many other times has that been said about a Trump quote? 10, 100, 1000? And how many times has it actually backfired on him? The guy really is a teflon President.

numike
numike

Put yourself in the position of a relatively conscious black person in America just since this past March. Black people have seen a pandemic disproportionately rip through their communities while the media continually runs live press conferences of a racist president lying about the disease. We’ve seen layoffs and unemployment ravage our communities while Congress funnels billions of dollars to white-owned businesses. We’ve seen white people absolutely lose their minds, waving guns and Confederate flags at police officers, pushing them into lakes and gathering in large groups without consequence while we’ve seen police literally sit on black people for allegedly violating social distancing orders.
And then the stories of the killings started. In the past three weeks: Ahmaud Arbery was lynched, on video. Breonna Taylor was killed by police in her own bed. And George Floyd was choked out on the street in broad daylight by police while strangers literally begged for his life. https://www.thenation.com/article/society/minneapolis-rebellion-floyd/

WildBull
WildBull

Murders by cops need to stop. Ex cops in Atlanta or on duty in Minneapolis, or wherever, it does not matter. But it always seems to happen in a local jurisdiction run by Democrats. Seems like the worst poverty, police forces and schools are in the cities that have been controlled by Democrats for decades. Don't blame the Trump administration or any part of the Federal government under any administration. These are local government issues. Democrats, clean up your own mess.

Montana33
Montana33

I wonder what these four police officers in Minnesota would do when they know there are no cameras around? These four police officers knew they were being recorded and still did this.

DBG8489
DBG8489

My 22 year old daughter went to the protest in Atlanta yesterday afternoon. She lives in the eastern part of the "downtown" area so the CNN building is about 5 miles from her apartment.

She said that in the beginning, it was peaceful - thousands of people mostly standing around and chanting and singing or whatever. However, as the afternoon wore on, individuals began to arrive who were clearly not there to be peaceful.

She said many of them were dressed alike and all had gas masks and backpacks. She didn't see it directly, but was told these were the individuals who began setting off fireworks and throwing things at the cops - which started the initial conflict. Once the cops fired the first tear gas canister, the conflict naturally escalated and many of the peaceful protesters were caught in the middle.

She and her friends left right after the crowd set fire to the first police car, but they had trouble getting out of the area and it ended up taking them several hours to get back to her apartment. She said she will not be going back.

I have personally lived in this area for most of my life - although now I am in the suburbs - and I have seen and been a part of many protests over many different matters. And I can tell you that what happened last night was not just an outlier, it was unprecedented. It wasn't a protest of anything at all. It was nothing more than a mob bent on destruction for the sake of destruction - and self-enrichment through looting.

However, consider the fact that most major media outlets continue to refer to these actions as "protests"... Some MSNBC hack is on video standing in front of a burning building in Minneapolis with dozens of rioters behind him claiming with a straight face that what you're seeing is mostly peaceful demonstration... Baghdad Bob anyone? Is this where we are in society now? Afraid, or politically-motivated, to the point where we can't actually call something like this what it clearly is? Is that how far we've fallen?

Furthermore, how many black-owned businesses in all of these cities did the rioters destroy and loot? How many lives and livelihoods of black business owners and their employees will be forever altered or destroyed because of their actions? Did anyone think about that? Did they consider what they were doing? Clearly the answer was no. They don't think about these things because they are just a mob - and a mob is nothing more than a pack of animals.

I hope last night was the end of it for every city - but especially Atlanta.

DCowley
DCowley

No truer words ever spoken in this twisted, upside down, bizarro world..where the disconnect from reality to the stock market is dream like.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab

Hindsight is always 20-20.
The consequence of rioting will be people moving away from these cities, leaving them poorer, and in far worse condition.

Blurtman
Blurtman

Where are the Roof Koreans when you need them?

numike
numike

The Amish in Minneapolis protest See the sign? “Thou shall not kill anymore”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qud7ptrxOVg&feature=emb_logo

numike
numike

yep its all those uppity nigs in democrat cities cant have them in OUR city Terrifying moments for a young Black man and his family in Texas, as numerous cops point guns on him and then assault his 90-year-old grandmother.

His alleged offense: rolling through a stop sign. ⁠

JanNL
JanNL

Antifa have been waiting for this I think. I remember Hamburg a few years ago. Similar rioting. Any pretext suffices.

JimmyScot
JimmyScot

I call BS on the “capitalism caused this”.

It didn’t.

Capitalism creates inequality.
Socialism also creates inequality.

What capitalism created was the opportunity for evil people - specifically, socialists - to fan the flames of envy and hate to create exactly this situation. The left has no answers, and thus can only rely on constructing bogeymen and conspiracies. What’s clever about that is that since they have established moral superiority for themselves, they can talk about love and tolerance, but show absolutely no love nor tolerance for anybody that disagrees with them.

Here in the U.K. it is the same. The Tory party is accused of “murdering” tens of thousands of sick people (who it shut down the economy to protect) and suddenly everybody is a “key worker” and claiming a share of the righteousness. Yet even though people on higher salaries have had little help, we are told that their time is now coming, and they’ve crapped on the little people for too long. Astonishing. I don’t know a single wealthy person who sneers at the poor, but the poor are convinced this is so. And the 40% of working families who are net takers from the state are convinced that the rich aren’t paying their share, even though they pay not a net penny themselves.

The left has created this tinderbox.

Of course in the US it’s worse because of guns. None of us in the U.K. can understand this weird US obsession with Amendments and gun ownership. In 1987, a man called Michael Ryan went on a shooting spree with his automatic weapons. They were banned. Number of people killed by automatic weapons since then: zero. In 1996, a man named Thomas Hamilton went nuts with his handguns. They too were banned. Number of people killed in mass shootings featuring handguns since then: zero. In the enduring 24 years, there has been just one other mass shooting (with shotguns - harder to police).

Our police don’t carry guns routinely. Getting shot by an armed policeman is pretty tough to achieve. About two people a year normally. They will talk you to death rather than shoot you. To put this into context: firearm use is authorised by police commanders more than 12,000 times each year.

We Brits just don’t get it. Take guns off the streets. Stop teaching police officers that they are in some war. And learn how to react proportionally. Here is a video of some British police facing off to a very angry guy with a machete.

Jdog1
Jdog1

Trump is simply stating fact. It does not matter who is in power, no government can allow chaos to happen without reacting to put it down. That is the main purpose of government... to stay in control. I am not saying this is right, I am simply stating fact, that is the way it is...

njbr
njbr

Watching live feeds last night, it is clear that there are significant groups that are intent on causing as much damage as possible. Lots of white people in those groups--watched groups of them setting fire after fire on live feeds. And it's not like they were looting, they were pulling doors off of businesses and walking away--an incitement for others to loot.

I think there is a race war being fomented here, and it is quite possibly pushed by both ends of the spectrum

The authorities are relatively pinned in their locations and actions, whereas the mobility of the rioters and looters allows them to strike at will. There have been incidents all over the metro area that are not quickly responded to. It's a tank-bound force responding to a guerrilla force.

It'll be interesting tonight.

It can't be allowed to go on.

Meanwhile, in regular people's lives...

footwedge
footwedge

I live in Mpls within a good golf shot of downtown and am a retired military officer. One correction: Trump did NOT send in the Nat'l Guard, they were activated by the governor as they must be for contingencies like this. The governor is also a retired military NCO as well as high school teacher and was a 1st congressional district representative before being elected Gov - he's a democrat and that district is very conservative now with a Republican. He has generally been doing a good job with the pandemic and is pretty popular overall. To his credit, he took the blame for not getting the guard in here earlier even although it was really the mayor who failed; he was totally unprepared the size of the crowds and the violence as was the chief of police who, again had been doing a good job. As is usually the case, the looting and damage has been led by a relatively small but extremely well organized group of out of town thugs. In that Trump was correct. Other than that the prez, as usual, made things worse with his ignorant tweets.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

I genuinely fear the direction in which this country is headed. The disparity between the “haves” and the “have nots” has never been larger and this pandemic will almost certainly exacerbate the problem. It is high time this country addressed both the racial inequality and the wealth gap in this country. This latest round of bail outs for Wall Street tells me that it won’t be happening any time soon.

Tim E
Tim E

The Boomers wanted it all - took it all - and make their progeny pay for it. Now - they want to live on "retirement" - other Peoples money forever and be entertained constantly. The Boomers need to GO!

numike
numike

Cops Kill Because We Gave Them The Legal Framework to Do It
Rather than burning and looting, protesters should turn their ire on lawmakers and judges who facilitate police immunity.