Nonsensical Notion "Trump Brought Peace to the Mideast"

Mish

Trump supporters are all abuzz over the notion Trump brought peace to the Mideast. Let's investigate the claim.

The Claim

Peace? Really?

  1. Neither Bahrain nor the UAE have never been involved in any of the wars of Arabs against Israel. Where is the peace deal there?
  2. The main source of violence in Israel for the past 45 years has been in the reaction Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. Where is the peace?
  3. This deal sets the stage for Israel to complete an illegal annexation of the West Bank. That will bring violence, not peace.
  4. Selling F-35s to the UAE is an odd part of a peace deal
  5. The US still has troops in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, all against the  will of those countries. Is that peace or war?

Reality

This is worse than a staged photo op. It assuredly has nothing to do with peace.

Instead, it's the formalization of an alliance against Iran, against the wishes of our true allies all of which understand that US actions against Iran are both unfounded and illegal.

The US had a peace deal with Iran. All of our allies, independent inspectors, and the UN said Iran was honoring the deal. 

Deal Summation

  1. US State Department: Iran honoring the terms.
  2. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff: Iran honoring the terms.
  3. International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA): Iran honoring the terms.
  4. Arms Control Association: Iran honoring the terms.
  5. Every other signee of the accord: Iran honoring the terms.

For further discussion, please see CNN vs Newsweek: Who Joins the Silly Parade on the Mideast?

Trump wrecked a genuine peace deal, now he proclaims peace. 

Mish

Comments (42)
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Call_me_Al
Call_me_Al

Just as sure as the previous occupant brought peace (disregard the actions of the administration during its 8-year run).

It's all for show and not what the headlines shout and that goes beyond the people in this photo and spans the ages. Also - the CARES act wasn't about caring, the Patriot act didn't concern patriotic things, and the Economic Opportunity act did not provide economic opportunities.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Selling weapons to everyone you can and calling it a peace deal never ends up well. Whatever the Trump administration is touting you can be sure its the opposite is actually happening.

Realist
Realist

Trump supporters believe everything Trump tells them and that he has accomplished more than any president in history. Lol.

He is quickly eliminating the national debt with the tariffs that China pays.

He insists that Mexico will eventually pay for the wall.

He tells them that there is no need to wear masks to prevent CV19. Not even at his dangerous, non-social distancing rallies.

He actually up-played the virus, rather than downplay it.

He attempts to take credit for vaccine development as if no one would be working on vaccines if it wasn’t for him (which is pretty strange since he has always been against vaccines).

And hundreds more.

What a pathological liar.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns

"Trump wrecked a genuine peace deal, now he proclaims peace."

King Chaos sure does love his alternate facts and realities...

even "journalist Bob Woodward said he wasn’t sure whether President Trump knows in his 'own head what is real and what is unreal.'"

Heran
Heran

About 1), let's see what people in Middle East say (https://mobile.twitter.com/afneil/status/1305076094186512384): Bahraini activist: “Growing awareness among many in Arab world that Jewish people not foreign colonialists in Land of Israel, but part of this land, and part of our region… it’s a fact, and we can do many things together for prosperity, security and peace for region.” Abu Dhabi's official National newspaper: “The UAE-Israel accord is a win for every Muslim … Since 9/11, Muslims across the world have been on the defensive. I saw the suspicion of Muslims in the eyes of American officials. It always boiled down to: show us peace in Islam. Now, with visionary accord between UAE and Israel, a new horizon is opening to reinstate Muslim dignity by showing peace between peoples. We can now say: ‘A new way of co-existence is achievable. We are not pawns for mullahs of Iran or the Muslim Brotherhood. Look at the UAE.’”

Sechel
Sechel

I disagree on point #2. Palestinians and Isaeli's have been fighting since Israel's creation. That said it's clear the Palestinian authority on the West Bank has softened their stance unlike the Hamas in Gaza and Israel is not responding in kind. Huge mistake in my view. They should be negotiating a more reasonable solution. It no longer makes sense for Israel to occupy huge portions of the west bank. But more importantly the Palestinian issue is not at the heart of the middle east conflict. It hasn't for decades if ever.

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Bill Barr has completely lost his mind.

Zardoz
Zardoz

Trumplings are easily impressed... you should hear them cheer when he manages to drink water one handed.

Lance Manly
Lance Manly

As long as Israel keeps the Palestinians in a virtual prison in Gaza and denies them any democratic rights on the west bank there will never be peace.

LarryK
LarryK
  1. Neither Bahrain nor the UAE have never been involved in any of the wars of Arabs against Israel. Where is the peace deal there?

Most Arab countries never recognized Israel as legitimate, and wouldnt until there was an agreement with the Palestinians (which would never agree unless all of Israel was given to them). This is not a surrender as there would be after a war, this is a recognition of Israel as a country, a psychological blow to the Palestine which prods them in the direction of a REALISTIC final deal.

  1. The main source of violence in Israel for the past 45 years has been in the reaction Israeli treatment of the Palestinians. Where is the peace?

There can be no peace until BOTH parties want it. While Palestine has had the backing of the Arab states, against reality, they have not been willing to negotiate in good faith.

  1. This deal sets the stage for Israel to complete an illegal annexation of the West Bank. That will bring violence, not peace.

And the signing of this deal brought rockets down on Israel....so who is committing the violence?

  1. Selling F-35s to the UAE is an odd part of a peace deal

Not going to disagree. This is more, I believe, a desire of the UAE to defend itself against the Shia muslims of Iran. Then again, this could be a complete feint by the UAE to acquire US technology that can then be evaluated by China, Iran, etc.....time will tell.

  1. The US still has troops in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, all against the will of those countries. Is that peace or war?

This is a COMPLETELY different issue than the peace deal between Israel and some arab countries. The desire of some US warmongers and neocons to create and maintain some type of empire through force isnt something that should be linked to this agreement/argument. That is a topic of its own..... That being said, yes, the US occupying counties against their wills does foment ill will and contributes to instability in the region. I mean hell, if Russia had troops in our country against our desires, there would be a LOT of people uprising against it.....but they would be called patriots not terrorists. Unless you were a democrat/antifa/marxist/media.....then you may actually welcome it ;)

mkestrel
mkestrel

And somehow this is worse than Obama getting it because he was breathing?

Rocky Raccoon
Rocky Raccoon

You just have to laugh at this desperate attempt. Bibi owes Trump a favor for the embassy, and here we have it. With Trump losing, America first gets lost as Americans are jobless for some peace deal with nations not even at war combined with a weapons deal of all things.

The more you look at the #MAGA side of things, the stupider it looks. Those who play the 4D chess card obviously are WWE fans who gradated into politics with Trump.

dr smock
dr smock

General Wesley Clark, who ran for president in 2004, said in 2001 that he received a memo that we were going to take out 7 countries in the middle east in 5 years. It is a travesty that we have been at war in this area for 3 decades and solved nothing except bankrupt our country. There was a good group of presidential candidates that would have served us well over that period like Ross Perot, Ralph Nadar, Dr Ron Paul, General Clark , and Tom Steyer who dropped out of this current election. What were the wars about? Clark thought it was about oil. I think it was more than that and our politicians were bought and paid for.

dr smock
dr smock

LarryK, .........Steyer is for taxing the rich and has been an environmentalist and philanthropist for a very long time...... Looking at all the sorry candidates, he was my choice, but I have been burned many times before, especially by slick Willie and crooked Hillary who are complete bs. The media wanted Willie and not Perot to win and really attacked him. Finally he lost his temper, the video of which they played over and over on Tee Vee. There would have been no NAFTA nor deregulation under Perot.

Augustthegreat
Augustthegreat

To be honest, the only merit of tRump is that he is less war-hungry than Bannon, Bolton, Navaro, Pompouseo and cohorts

Dodge Demon
Dodge Demon

Point of fact: Jimmy Carter is eligible for a second term.

Just sayin, Mish, he’s proven Middle-East peace-maker.

LarryK
LarryK

Dr Smock.....environmentalist is one thing, as I think we can all agree that clean air/water/preservation of national treasures are a good thing.... But Steyer is a global warming high priest.....which is a sign of insanity/egomaniacal personality disorder, and a major disqualification in my book. I mean, ANYONE who says that anthropomorphic activity is the primary, or even a statistically significant cause of global temperature variation/climate variability is a fool. The science shows objectively that man does indeed have an impact on his environment, but the environment has changed for millenia and most of the change in climate is due to solar energy variation, which, maybe Im wrong, but kind of makes sense....

Anyhow, I realize this Blog is Mish's to do with it as he pleases, but his original purpose of this was to analyze global economics through a non-keynsian lens. HOW this started to go political boggles my mind.....especially when he was a big advocate of Trump in 2016 (mostly due to his out of the wars policy, as opposed to Hillary the warmonger). Trump is completely unconventional, and hell, an egomaniac to boot. But most of his policies (note...most, NOT all) have been successful. Washington for years has been a place of process and means....not ends, which, seemingly, never came. The face he actually tells you what he wants to do, tries to it, and when he does, moves on to the next task is refreshing.

FactsonJoe
FactsonJoe

Trump is lowering troops levels in Iraq and Afghanistan by almost half:

"Gen. Frank McKenzie, commander of U.S. Central Command, said early Wednesday that the U.S. plans to cut the troop presence in Iraq from 5,200 to 3,000 by the end of September. Speaking to a handful of reporters later, McKenzie provided additional details about the planned withdrawal from Afghanistan, noting that the U.S. military presence would decrease from 8,600 to 4,500 by late October."