Many Planes Actually Made it Out of Wuhan Yesterday and Today

Mish

Many planes managed to get out of Wuhan over the past few days. Let's take a look as to where.

Wuhan to San Francisco Today

Wuhan to San Francisco 00:00-06:00 - No Flights

Wuhan to San Francisco 06:00-12:00 - No Flights

Wuhan to San Francisco 12:00-18:00 - Three Flights to San Francisco (China South, American, Delta) are listed as "Scheduled".

Wuhan to San Francisco 18:00-00:00 - No Flights

The huge problem with Flightstats is you have to click on every flight to see if it is scheduled, cancelled, unknown, landed, or in the air. There are thousands of flights per day from some Chinese cities.

I do not believe those SFO scheduled flights left or ever will. See Addendum.

All Departures from Wuhan Monday, January 27

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I pieced that together from Wuhan Tianhe International Airport WUH Departures for 2020-01-27.

I only showed confirmed landings.

All Departures from Wuhan Tuesday, January 28

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Escape From Wuhan

This post is an update to Hundreds of Virus Carrying Planes Headed for US, London, Paris, Vancouver

In that article I commented "Wuhan may be locked down. The rest of China isn't yet."

This update shows it is indeed still possible to escape Wuhan, then depart from some other city to the US, Japan, Europe, or elsewhere.

Please note that Scientists Estimate 44,000 Virus Cases, Doubling Every 6 Days

This is confirmation that the US should have halted all planes from China long ago.

Addendum

This Tweet From SFO Airport Official

"The flight tracking app you are looking at has not updated with the correct origin city. That flight came from Guangzhou (CAN) and not Wuhan (WUH). Flights originally were from CAN-WUH and then WUH-SFO. However flights are not stopping in WUH and going direct from CAN-SFO."

Thus, the SFO landing was really from CAN, Guangzhou. The rest of the departures do seem to be from WUH.

If so, I count 16 departures yesterday and another 18 today from Wuhan.

Mike "Mish" Shedlock

Comments (21)
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Roadrunner12
Roadrunner12

That is why, in my view, the most important lesson from 1918 is to tell the truth. Though that idea is incorporated into every preparedness plan I know of, its actual implementation will depend on the character and leadership of the people in charge when a crisis erupts.

I recall participating in a pandemic “war game” in Los Angeles involving area public health officials. Before the exercise began, I gave a talk about what happened in 1918, how society broke down, and emphasized that to retain the public’s trust, authorities had to be candid. “You don’t manage the truth,” I said. “You tell the truth.” Everyone shook their heads in agreement.

Next, the people running the game revealed the day’s challenge to the participants: A severe pandemic influenza virus was spreading around the world. It had not officially reached California, but a suspected case—the severity of the symptoms made it seem so—had just surfaced in Los Angeles. The news media had learned of it and were demanding a press conference.

The participant with the first move was a top-ranking public health official. What did he do? He declined to hold a press conference, and instead just released a statement: More tests are required. The patient might not have pandemic influenza. There is no reason for concern.

I was stunned. This official had not actually told a lie, but he had deliberately minimized the danger; whether or not this particular patient had the disease, a pandemic was coming. The official’s unwillingness to answer questions from the press or even acknowledge the pandemic’s inevitability meant that citizens would look elsewhere for answers, and probably find a lot of bad ones. Instead of taking the lead in providing credible information he instantly fell behind the pace of events. He would find it almost impossible to get ahead of them again. He had, in short, shirked his duty to the public, risking countless lives.

And that was only a game.

thimk
thimk

well china is exporting viruses , are they subject to Trump tariffs ? Looks like the CCP is getting out of dodge to take advantage of our healthcare ?

nothingbutblueskies
nothingbutblueskies

Thanks, Mish for this outstanding coverage, just like Brexit.

njbr
njbr

The first human-to-human transmission of the Wuhan coronavirus in Europe has been reported in Germany, where a man was infected by a colleague who had been in China, fuelling anxieties about the potential ease of international spread.

Experts said it was of particular concern that the Chinese woman who originally had the virus apparently had no symptoms when she transmitted it to her colleague. There have been warnings from inside China that people may be infectious before they start to feel ill.

wootendw
wootendw

"This is confirmation that the US should have halted all planes from China long ago."

People should have the right to move about freely in public places, especially public rights of way. Those who fear infection should avoid it in their own way without infringing on the rights of others.

Pathogens are everywhere but increase in areas with low moisture or high UV (like Phoenix). Outdoors, the concentration is lower than indoors due to the volume of air dilution. Getting infected (to the point of having symptoms) is a question of how much one is exposed to, how good their immune system is, and a roll of the dice. Permitting governments to decide who goes where means 'pandemic' can be used as another excuse to restrict freedom.

SMF
SMF

Flightradar24 will give you a very good live overview of airline traffic. The cancellations are being reported.

thimk
thimk

hmmm . just for personal edification i decided to see what Vancouver was doing with this issue since it has a large Chinese population. Looks like they are in complete denial . Sent a man home under self_isolation and they expect more cases!

Sechel
Sechel

u.s and japan are pulling their nationals out. if not by plane then how do they leave?


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