Dear Sean Hannity: Who Owes Whom an Apology?

Mish

Florida got it right and Texas got it right said Hannity on May 20.

Here's a lesson regardaing premature bragging.

Not Easy to Say What's Happening

People oversimplify what's going on. There is no nice, neat package.

The recent outbreaks in Texas and Florida are different than California. 

New York and New Jersey were unlike anything else. But the virus did not go away in the summer as many, if not most thought. 

Air Conditioning Connection

Air conditioning and the need to stay inside in the South likely had something to do with that.

I took a look at A/C on June 24 in Covid-19 Hotspot Update: Why the Surge in the South?

Death Lag Times 

Death lag times vary widely state-to-state as noted in When Will the Exploding Number of Cases Lead to More Deaths?

Some suggested that it's all demographics. Rising hospitalizations suggest otherwise.

Changing Demographics and Death Lags, What We Know

University of Florida biostatistics professor Dr. Natalie Dean gives three possible explanations for the falling median age. 

She concludes its some combination of all of them but there is not enough data to understand what's happening.

For discussion, please see Changing Demographics and Death Lags, What We Know

Trump on Testing

Here's an amusing take on testing.

Not Enough Data

Despite not having enough data, Trump wants less of it. 

Specifically, Trump wants less testing. 

Fake News of the Day

In the "Fake News of the Day" on , Trump said states are doing too much testing that that was the cause of the soaring number of cases.

The idea is patently false and has been easily refuted, but people believe what they want to hear.

Not only did Trump moan about too much testing, he cut back funding for it in five states including Texas when Houston Hospitals are at ICU capacity.

Despite waits as long as 4 hours at some Texas locations, Trump cut back testing.

Florida and Texas Reversals 

Trump ignored soaring cases in Florida and Texas but Texas governor Greg Abbott threw in the towel on repopenings and Shuts Bars at Noon as Covid Cases Surge.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis also threw in the towel on reopenings. DeSantis Banned Drinking at Florida Bars. 

Apology, Where Is It?

The question of the day, for Sean Hannity is quite simple: 

Who Owes Whom an Apology?

Mish

Comments (47)
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numike
numike

Chiiiild that Trump he be all messed up!

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

Trump is a stable moron.

BaronAsh
BaronAsh

The question for you is:
are you saying that because the cases are going up, and maybe also death counts in places that have extremely low death counts already, this means they should be locked down?

Or if not - because there is no reason to in terms of hospital capacity etc. - what is your beef? Has anyone seriously claimed that the country should stay at home until there is absolutely no virus left around at all? Has anyone suggested a way for the population to live and work without any risk at all? Who made that decision?

Have you looked at the actual death numbers in Florida and Texas? Do they constitute a massive threat to the healthcare system or to life generally?

Apart from proving - yet again - that Trump is a lying moron, what is your point?

Casual_Observer
Casual_Observer

Hannity has about as much credibility as a bag of dirt.

numike
numike

BREAKING: #60Minutes investigation reveals Trump knowingly allowed flawed #COVID19 antibody tests to circulate, leading to inaccurate data about virus spread, creating data to support re-openings, and potentially causing thousands more preventable deaths.

BruceSpringstein
BruceSpringstein

There is a correlation between the areas with the best ratings for Hannity and death from Covid-19.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

The following article regarding the D614G mutation is a little disconcerting. Hopefully this is just misinformation from Chinese researchers. The following sentence in particular which has significant implications for vaccine development if true.

“ The Chinese researchers say antibodies found in patients who had been infected with earlier forms of the pathogen failed to neutralize the mutant strain.”.

ToInfinityandBeyond
ToInfinityandBeyond

I have come to the conclusion that the only people dumber than Trump are his supporters as per the below statement......

Rep. Greg Steube, R-Fla., pushed back on New York's decision to quarantine travelers from Florida, arguing that the Sunshine State's spike in coronavirus cases is the result of increased testing.

Webej
Webej

You are kind of taking Hannity's thing about an apology out of context. The same crowd who started about Florida "killing granny" caused thousands of deaths in nursing homes, litarally killing granny, by State ordered placement of covid patients in nursing homes. It was already clear from China and Europe's experience that these groups were extremely vulnerable, so there is no excuse.
Many countries were negligent about taking measures in February to protect those most at risk, but by the time this hit NY and NJ, it had become criminal negligence. In Pennsylvania there was the case of someone getting her own mother out of nursing care while being complicit in this insanity.
Isolating those most at risk involves measures impacting 1.7% of the population and could be achieved relatively cheaply by paying people $50 to stay on premises to provide care for 2-3 months. That would have saved upwards of 50% of the total deaths. It would have been a hell of a lot more efficient and cheaper than targeting the other 98,3% of the population with "shelter-in-place" orders.
Everybody keeps acting as if containment is still a viable approach and that we can influence the area under the curve -- the containment ship has sailed, only the shape of the curve can be modified.

BigE904
BigE904

Florida reopened in MAY and it is now almost July and the cases just started to spike? I guess it had nothing to do with the protesters?

Montana33
Montana33

Hannity is a Trump fanboy and does as he is told. Trump will turn on Hannity and Fox to steal their viewers for his new franchise. Trump turns on everyone.

michiganmoon
michiganmoon

I remember an absurd press conference with Trump and DeSantis at the White House spiking the ball for getting a first down when they were still 70 yards away from the end zone.

Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill

Someone needs to ask Sean Hannity what is the status of his lawsuit against Debbie Schlussel while they are pointing out how clueless he is once again.

Let's be honest here. Hannity has proven himself to be a big government guy time and again during the age of Trump as spending has increased and we have more socialist handouts and bailouts--not to mention gun control and Planned Parenthood funding--under the leadership of his orange buddy with little hands.

I expect Hannity to make a 180 degree turn back to the right if Biden wins...

CoolFool
CoolFool

Mish is supposed to understand numbers, right?

Since May 20 NY has had ~2k incremental deaths. Texas has had less than a thousand. Florida has had about 1300. Are we still defending NY? How about waiting for some (any?) evidence that these cases will turn to an explosion of deaths. At that point Hannity will actually be wrong.

To be crystal clear, even if this spike ends up taking TX deaths up by 10x and NY doesn't have even one more death, TX will still have a deaths per million rate HALF that of NY.

And we know that lockdown policy was NEVER designed to minimize death but to prevent hospital overwhelming. NY is doing well today more because they already reached herd immunity (they let it burn all the way through), so that we are now essentially blaming TX for saving too many people in April and May?

Mish is now a proponent of Heighten The Curve as the best policy for a governor to pursue.


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