The CDC is Alarmed, Says Stay Home for Thanksgiving


Hospitalizations hit another record in the US and US death hit a new high of 1,964 on Wednesday.

CDC Says Stay Home

The CDC issued a Strong Warning for Thanksgiving.

In one of its sharpest warnings to date, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention strongly urged Americans on Thursday not to travel for Thanksgiving, with an official saying the agency is “alarmed” by the recent exponential growth in the number of Covid-19 cases, as well as rising hospitalizations and deaths.

As the pandemic enters its 11th month in the U.S., many families are grappling with whether to meet up with friends or family for traditional celebrations. About 50 million Americans are expected to travel in the coming days, which is traditionally the busiest travel period of the year.

Daily Confirmed Deaths Per Million

Daily Confirmed Deaths Per Million 2020-11-19

Hospital Stays Reduced

The Wall Street Journal reports Hospitals Reduce Covid-19 Deaths, Lengths of Stay.

At the Mayo Clinic’s hospital in Rochester, Minn., coronavirus patients now stay a median of five days, half as long as in March. The time Covid-19 patients spend at Advocate Aurora Health’s 26 Midwestern hospitals has fallen 25% on average since May.

The results are consistent with anecdotal reports from doctors saying that new tools and a better understanding of how Covid-19 attacks the body are helping to improve medical outcomes.

Even so, surges again threaten to overwhelm hospitals, according to hospital executives and public health experts. Covid-19 patients flooding into hospitals have set national records each of the last nine days, reaching 79,410 Wednesday.

Many hospitals across the country are again scrambling to add more beds and cancelling nonessential surgery to make room for coronavirus patients. Staffing shortages are compounding the strain, limiting the number of patients hospitals can safely accept.

Patients ages 19 to 34, for example, accounted for more Covid-19 hospitalizations in September than in April, as the percentage of patients ages 55 to 64 and 85 and older declined, the Epic Health Research Network analysis found. Younger patients, who typically are at lower risk from the virus, spent less time in the hospital, the data show.

The data suggests younger people are more reckless where they go and what cautions like mask wearing they take. 

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USA #1! USA #1!
We are awesome.


I am traveling for turkey day, my fam is getting together although we did limit it to about 6 people all of whom work from home.


So we have this pretty a good experiment going in the Dakotas....ND had the worst numbers in the country last week......and SD wasn’t too much better....and then five days ago the ND governor issued a mandatory mask order.....and SD’s dumbass governor said she isn’t sure masks work and she doesn’t want to interfere with her citizens FREEEEEDOM.

Let’s see how the numbers change between now and Christmas....or until SD’s governor wakes up and smells the coffee. I’m watching to see what happens.


This is to provide contrast, only (I don't know) :

"Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told government officials in Alberta during a zoom conference call that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”"

"He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).”

“He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.”


Traveling (flying) from Florida to Texas to spend Thanksgiving with the misses family (staying in her parents guest house). Including her parents, siblings and their families I expect a gathering of about 12 of us for dinner.

Not particularly worried for myself or my family. Her mom, a leukemia survivor is the one taking the big risk hosting the dinner at her place (her idea) but her father is a doctor (podiatrist ) and he signed off on everything so presumably he feels the risk is low or that he can be on top of things quickly if she contracts Covid.


COVID is the best excuse if you normally don't want to visiting your in-laws (or out-laws) during the holidays.


It seems to me it not the size of the gathering that matters. It what each person does in the days before hand that matters. The size just limits how many people in you family you can expose.

Rusty Nail
Rusty Nail

Headed for weeks of 3000+ deaths/day easy, this is just simple extrapolation from case trends. A lovely parting gift from Trump and his government of morons and grifters.


Whatever you do, stay away from the dog! Maybe we will need to cull them also, like the minks?

Are Dogs Spreading SARS-CoV-2? Study Finds Living With a Dog Increases Risk of Contracting COVID-19
NOVEMBER 16, 2020

A study conducted by the University of Granada and the Andalusian School of Public Health has analyzed the main risk factors in the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 during the national lockdown in Spain, including going out to work or living with patients diagnosed with COVID-19.

The authors warn of the need among dog-lovers to take extreme hygiene measures regarding their pets, as it is not yet clear whether the owners were infected because the animal acted as the host for the virus and transmitted it directly, or whether they picked it up indirectly due to the increased exposure of the dog to vehicles of the virus (that is, objects or surfaces where the virus lies).

“From a scientific point of view, there is no justification for children’s playgrounds being closed to prevent infections while parks where dogs are walked are allowed to remain open, when there are numerous objects there that can act as vehicles for SARS-CoV-2,” observe the authors.


I love it...

Even at this late date, the old ploy of bringing in the 1% eccentric (doctor, in this case), outweighs everything said by the 99% who really know their shit.

Great going, low-info people!!


....The son of a worker at a Tyson facility in Waterloo, Iowa, who died in April of complications from the virus, filed a lawsuit that claims plant managers misled workers about COVID-19 and allowed sick employees to continue working.

The worker, Isidro Fernandez, got sick because of his job, according to the lawsuit that was amended on Nov. 11....

...COVID-19 infected more than 1,000 employees out of about 2,800 at the plant, and five died, the lawsuit says. Tyson idled the plant in late April because of an outbreak.

Earlier that month, manager Tom Hart "organized a cash buy-in, winner-take-all betting pool for supervisors and managers to wager how many employees would test positive for COVID-19," according to the lawsuit....Tyson said it suspended employees involved in the accusations and retained the law firm Covington & Burling to conduct an independent investigation led by Holder....

"If these claims are confirmed, we'll take all measures necessary to root out and remove this disturbing behavior from our company," the company said.

The Iowa Capital Dispatch first reported on the betting allegations in the lawsuit on Wednesday.

"This shocking report of supervisors allegedly taking bets on how many workers would get infected, pressuring sick workers to stay on the job, and failing to enforce basic safety standards, should outrage every American," said Marc Perrone, president of the United Food & Commercial Workers International Union.


Twitter from Senator Chris Murphy

Just off a conference call with Trump Administration vaccine distribution team. They confirmed that they have not briefed anyone on President-elect Biden's team and have no plans to do so. This is potentially catastrophic.


Already canceled Thanksgiving plans here, which is just as well because our host likes to invite a lot of people, last year it was over 25. Even this year's pared back list was going to be around a dozen.

It's only a minor inconvenience, but gyms closed here again this week and that's much more of a bother. I'm perfectly happy going during weird hours to avoid people and I really miss working out. The best trails are closed for the season so I guess I'll be doing random hikes outside when I can.


As Trump’s niece says, “All Donald has now is breaking things, which he will do with a vengeance”.

Trump is the spoiled child who just lost. He is going to take it out on anyone and everyone. Whether that means firing people, interfering with the vaccine distribution or initiating attacks on other countries, he simply doesn’t care.

He only cares about himself, not his country. That is why he is attempting to destroy faith in the election process. Apparently, 70% of Republicans think the election was a fraud. That is incredibly dangerous.

Regarding the pandemic: Let’s compare the death rates for Belgium (population 11.6 million), which has the highest national death rate per million citizens with various US states so far during this pandemic.

Belgium 1294

New Jersey 1893
New York 1754
Massachusetts 1514
Connecticut 1348
Louisiana 1333
Rhode Island 1216
Mississippi 1216
North Dakota 1043

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