COLORADO SPRINGS (
TheStreet ) -- Nationalization fears were reverberating through the gold mining community at the Denver Gold Forum.
"Ernst Young had a report out on the mining industry," said
(NG) cheif executive officer Rick Van Nieuwenhuyse, "and they identified the number one issue for the mining industry is nationalization, whether it's in bite sized pieces by taxing you to death ... or its taking a bigger piece of the pie or the whole pie. They usually don't take the whole pie until you've invested your capital."
The fears are warranted. Mongolia announced Tuesday that it was thinking about increasing its stake in the Oyu Tolgoi project in South Gobi.
Ivanhoe Mines, which is almost 50% owned by
(RIO), owns 66% of the project and the government 34%. According to reports, the government might try to increase its share to 40%.
Hugo Chavez in Venezuela did something similar Monday by announcing that all the gold mined in the country had to be sold to the government and that 55% of gold miners belong to the state -- companies have 90 days to make that joint venture.
Australia is still debating raising its mining tax and Peru just hiked taxes. Mining companies will be taxed on their operating profits and not more than 50%. This tax increase was actually considered a victory by the mining industry that newly elected socialist leader, Ollanta Humala, didn't get more aggressive.
David Christensen, CEO of
ASA Gold and Precious Metals
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going to play out ... the pie has gotten bigger and so the perception is that they should take the larger portion of the pie."
Christensen names West Africa as the nation with the biggest risk, although South America has been getting the most press, which is bad news for
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, which operates exclusively in the region.
Randgold CEO Mark Bristow is completely unconcerned. "If you're
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in Tanzania and you've delivered on none of your promises and you don't have anything to offer and everyone hates you, you're in the ****.
if you're in Mali where we represent 22% of GDP with
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and we've delivered on everything and we've paid $1 billion of taxes since 2001
7,000 brand new jobs" then it's a different story.
Christensen says Randgold is relatively insulated from the nationalization risk, although higher taxes are a given, because Bristow has done such a good job of working with the local communities. "We don't deal with governments. We deal with the country, we don't pay bribes, we deal with the company and its people and the government happens to represent them."
Randgold's corporate tax holiday for its Tongon mine in the Ivory Coast runs out in 2015. The company has been paying royalties but no duties and corporate tax. Once that grace period expires, the company will have to pay out 25% more in taxes. Bristow was unfazed not only because he is expecting it, but also because his tax holiday in Mali just ran out and that increase was even steeper at 35%.
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CEO Richard O'Brien thinks nationalization is a trend but that "it's part of life." He says Australia started the trend by pushing for higher taxes and that other countries are now saying 'what about us?' It should be noted that South African miners have had to deal with this problem for years, which is why local miners like
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have been trying to diversify out of the country, but now the rest of the world is catching up.
"I think there is a point where you push too far. People can't make investments or they won't make investment or they chose to go somewhere else,' says O'Brien, who added that the company is working with governments to communicate the benefits of mining. Since Newmont is a global miner with projects in hot-button tax areas like Australia, Peru, Ghana and Indonesia, O'Brien has his work cut out for him.
Barrick Gold, the largest gold miner in the world, has the same problem as Newmont. "The encouraging thing is that in most countries where we are operating," said CEO Aaron Regent, "there has been a constructive dialogue between the industry and the government."